I am over this. I am being pilloried as a neocon for just suggesting that
IPCC references are less than scientific - that the UEA guys have vested
interests and that people would be well served by looking at a couple of
view points. Quoting guides on cleaning shoes, trying to get journal editors
sacked and citing New Scientist is in - and in the interests of bandwidth
and time - I'm out.

I have foxtel so I'm off to find some good neocon right-think. I leave you
with scientists who have no political motivations at all and write only but
peer reviewed scientific papers.

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On 5 March 2010 21:21, David Burstin <[email protected]> wrote:

> I may be reading this wrongly, but here is the argument as I see it (and
> btw I do believe in AGW):
>
> Ken: I believe in science and the scientific process. I believe that there
> is a great deal of peer-reviewed science supporting AGW.
> David: Agreed.
>
> David: Despite the above, I am not convinced that we are being told the
> whole story due to [insert Climategate/email issues/etc]. These things show
> that some people disseminating the data/science have vested interests and
> are choosing not to reveal anything contrary to their view.
> Ken: I don't find the issues you raise relevant. The science stands
> completely independently of the people disseminating it.
>
> David: I believe that we are being told the truth, I'm just not sure if
> it's the whole truth, so I remain sceptical.
> Ken: I am not sceptical. I have seen enough supporting evidence and nothing
> that disproves the existence of AGW.
>
> It seems to me that both paths are legitimate choices. Ken/David - what am
> I missing?
>
> Happy Friday
> Dave
>
>
>


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