Hehhe :) Sent from my iPhone
On May 3, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Stephen Price <[email protected]> wrote: > What the hell? Can I have some of that stuff you're smoking? lol > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Scott Barnes <[email protected]> wrote: >> Market share really isn't the end game, having a browser being the most >> popular was a curse/blessing in one. When they had it nobody in the company >> had a clue on what to do with it all they knew was to increment its growth >> was to do so very slowly given any breaking changes could end up hurting the >> interweb (thus you see the IE6 to IE9 fail trajectory today). All they knew >> was they had to do something quick and just like Gorillaz once wrote in a >> song "caught up in the conflict / between his brain and his tail" is how >> that saga played out - by the time the team figured out what to do with >> it market-share tanked, Silverlight / XBAP was born and now its about >> retreating back to the browser & try again. >> The future of IE9 is to storm the script kiddy developer beach heads, >> provoke HTML5 + AJAX war chants get everyone excited about the purity of >> ACID compliance and 3D via Interweb then when everyone is lulled into a HTML >> Utopian high ...boom goes the dynamite, out comes the forked Desktop Native >> API friendly addons to IE thus enabling "Look mah, I can haz ur desktop app >> with my script k3iddy er33tness JavaScript/HTML5 mass celebration of >> mediocrity" then when that occurs queue the next iteration of what we see >> today as WPF/Silverlight coming back in via a massive "We're sorry, check >> out our new improved UX Platform" followed by the ye olde Microsoft Playbook >> being resurrected again and again. >> Windows is thine name, I for one embrace my new Windows 8 Overlords. I >> figure join the cult early that way you can build trust and get closer to >> the ground zero of stupidity... come...follow me into the cloud for ye shall >> see the foggy brilliance of what makes lemmings jump off cliffs!! :) >> >> --- >> Regards, >> Scott Barnes >> http://www.riagenic.com >> >> >> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Tony Wright <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Microsoft has released this to presumably attempt to increase market >>> share, or at the very least not lose market share to competitors such as >>> Chrome, perhaps rushed out in desperation when it wasn’t ready, due to >>> Chrome’s new version launch. >>> >>> >>> >>> Of course, if this is making me reluctantly look at other browsers, I am >>> firmly of the belief that this version will actually lose Microsoft browser >>> market share far more than if they hadn’t have released it at all, because I >>> would have continued using the old browser. Now I hate the new browser, and >>> don’t appear to have a path back to IE8. So my only solution is to change >>> Brands. >>> >>> >>> >>> T. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of Tony Wright >>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2011 3:42 PM >>> To: 'ozDotNet' >>> Subject: RE: IE9: why do I hate it so much >>> >>> >>> >>> Oh yes, I forgot about the crashes. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea >>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2011 3:11 PM >>> To: ozDotNet >>> Subject: Re: IE9: why do I hate it so much >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm in the same boat. >>> >>> I totally dislike the tabs. Even more my tabs don't always open. I can >>> consistently get my IE stuck in opening a tab. It "opens" and switches to >>> the new tab but the tab never appears and I can't go back. I'm left with >>> only one tab with the "your most popular sites" and everything else locked >>> up. >>> >>> I get this 10 times a day. (this is on a fresh installation less than 10 >>> days old install). >>> >>> I also dislike the "Your most popular sites" thing. I need to see the >>> screenshot not just some logos and a random useless text. >>> >>> I think Metro started to take over usability. Oh, and don't get me started >>> on the favourites and plugins and random stupi*** ActiveX extensions. >>> >>> I tried to use it in anger for few weeks. Now I only use it for OWA and >>> SharePoint access. >>> >>> >>> >>> I think IE9 is the Vista of IE :) >>> >>> >>> >>> Corneliu >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Scott Barnes <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Its pretty common mistake made often daily. Abstracting users from Time is >>> also quite hard to achieve especially given the array of variables that a >>> browser can come attached with (CPU / GPU speeds, Bandwidth Latency, Task / >>> Processes running in background ..ie I/O latency etc). >>> >>> >>> >>> If you're bored read this study on Progress Bar's and just how stupid we >>> human beings can be on a little ol Progress Bar >>> >>> >>> https://ritdml.rit.edu/bitstream/handle/1850/10867/33058_pdf_29344_26CF3AD6-D9B7-11DE-BDEF-B767F0E6BF1D.pdf?sequence=1 >>> >>> >>> >>> Now amplify that across all your user interface principles. >>> >>> >>> >>> As for IE9 sucking? yeah I don't: >>> >>> Metro "back" button. I'm kinda drinking the Microsoft pre-ordained cookie >>> cut UI Metro Koolaid but seriously big BACK buttons aren't exactly smart >>> unless you have some kind of weird Fits & Hick's law voodoo going on? >>> Tabs are two narrow in height. On a desktop I can live with this, but on a >>> laptop resting on my - lap - using a track pad on say a train? ..its kind of >>> a mini game of "See if you can hit my X and win a prize" >>> Alerts at the bottom. Sure I get the whole "Hey its a passive info-ware >>> area!" moments of goodness. It however is hard at times to distinguish >>> between the site i'm currently on and the IE chrome. Furthermore "Show all >>> Content" alerts when folks bring in ext resources via SSL sites are freaking >>> annoying. I'd prefer it just say "Would you like to forgive this site from >>> here on out of its SSL naughtiness? - *click* Forgive it is" >>> No dashboard page? - I love my chrome dashboard thumbnail of frequently >>> visited sites... >>> etc.. >>> >>> I could list a few "why i dislike IE" more.. but for me at the end of the >>> day it's a Chrome Clone..so while I know how IE9 came to be from >>> inside/outside Microsoft perspective(s) it still feels a bit cheapened to >>> just catchup to the guy (Google) who picked a fight with you in the >>> Browser-school yard? they could do more - that is if they manage to stop >>> losing their team members to the Google Chrome team :) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Regards, >>> Scott Barnes >>> http://www.riagenic.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Michael Minutillo >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Just goes to show you it doesn't matter how fast it actually IS, it >>> matters how fast it FEELS to the end user. Good UI is psychology more than >>> engineering. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:27 AM, David Connors <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Winston Pang <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I mean it actually feels a lot slower to load her up as well, compared >>> to chrome, not sure how google did it, but it feels so much more >>> smoother and faster to use chrome than anything else, I mean creating >>> a new tab in chrome feels so damn fast! >>> >>> >>> >>> If you can get past the dreadful performance of the speaker in this video, >>> it explains why it is so fast. Good engineering and a helping of smoke and >>> mirrors. :) >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymgXTdWWNUU >>> >>> -- >>> David Connors | [email protected] | www.codify.com >>> Software Engineer >>> Codify Pty Ltd >>> Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 >>> 189 363 >>> V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors >>> Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>
