Hi

I get onto my computer this afternoon and I have found that the company had
started publicly harassing me via social media.

The reason I disputed was for a moral reason, in that I felt they dishonored
their agreement and shouldn't have promised on something they couldn't
deliver. It was never about the money for me, I have money to pay for
services.

Since they wouldn't leave me alone, I ended up giving them a payment. I
didn't want to have myself get into a public debated over a disagreement, I
didn't want my reputation to be tarnished by this incident which was such a
small sum.

Maybe this was weak?

I'm just happy for it to be over, disaster project. Some nights I was up
between 1-4am fixing up issues they introduced, so it would be good for the
client morning.

Michael



On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Liam McLennan <[email protected]>wrote:

> >   How much of the Indian’s content is in the completed web page
>
> Since you have not paid them you cannot use any of their work - that would
> be stealing.
>
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:40 PM, David Boccabella <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Ok – to clarify the situation
>>
>>
>>
>> Your client (the domain owner) approached you – a contractor – to do some
>> work i.e. Build a website
>>
>> You then subcontracted another group – the Indians – to do some of the
>> work for you and they did not deliver.
>>
>> And they are now threatening your client.
>>
>>
>>
>> Firstly – as the Indians had no direct contact with your client NOR was
>> there any agreement directly between them and your client – there is nothing
>> they can do.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any court of law would drop this immediately as the case would be between
>> yourself and the Indians. And as such you have a good reason (Backed by
>> Elance’s refund) for cancelling the
>>
>> Contract between you and the Indians.
>>
>>
>>
>> So – Inform your client of the reason that you dropped the Indians from
>> doing the work (you had the clients best interests at heart and the quality
>> was not there), and that the Indians are trying to harass you into paying
>> them for nothing.
>>
>>
>>
>> If really push comes to shove (and we are talking big courts here which I
>> seriously doubt that the Indians can afford to do) these questions may need
>> to be asked.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.       Who owns the copyright on the logo’s and the web design (usually
>> the client or you unless you have asked the Indians to develop this from
>> scratch)
>>
>> 2.       How much of the Indian’s content is in the completed web page
>> (Although it MAY look the same – if there is significant changes to the
>> functionality of the web page and/or coding) since if you can show that most
>> of their content was deemed unacceptable in quality and was discarded then
>> likewise they have little call for recompense.
>>
>> 3.       Elance is a mediator company I understand, so that they are
>> there to protect both parties from each other should  things go bad (as they
>> have). If they have acted in your favour then likewise there is not much the
>> Indians can do otherwise sue Elance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Your position -  pretty safe.  Just make sure that your client understands
>> the reasons for dropping the Indians (with examples if  possible) and that
>> they are just harassing. If you also have documented emails and details
>> between yourself and the Indians re quality of work then this only
>> strengthens your case.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck, and take a good breath.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Liam McLennan.
>
> [email protected]
> http://www.eclipsewebsolutions.com.au
>

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