If I go to seek.com.au and type in Nettiers I get no results.  Entity
Framework gives 97 jobs in Australia

Are there features EF has that Nettiers doesn't?

 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 9:06 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: System.Data classes and List<T>

 

I am wondering if these days the done thing is not to bind the output of an
ORM directly to the controls in the UI, but rather to have an intermediary
part of the UI between the ORM output and the controls

 

Both EF4 books I have mention this and hint that binding to entities or
passing them over service boundaries is not a good practice. For small apps
or maintenance utilities (I'm writing one now), editing entities directly
doesn't worry me, but when you start passing them over WCF or Remoting then
I'd consider using DTOs (Data Transfer Objects) that are custom views of the
entities. However, you then have to write more infrastructure to move them
around.

 

Is this what model view presenter / model view controller / model view view
controller are about?     MVP/MVC/MVVC ?

Kirsten

 

Those patterns solve a different problem.

 

Your sample code where you bind the query results to a grid is fine for
small apps, but as you scale-up and have tiers, then it's impractical.

 

Nathan, I generally agree with your comments, but you need to write so much
more infrastructure. However, I'm still stuck with the limitations of the
features implemented by EF4 entities and collections. As a comparison, I
looked at some netTiers output classes and I challenge anyone to casually
knock-up classes that implements it's interfaces:

 

Generic Collection

ListBase<T> : BindingList<T>, IBindingListView, IBindingList, IList,
ICloneable, ICloneableEx, IListSource, ITypedList, IDisposable, IComponent,
IRaiseItemChangedEvents, IDeserializationCallback

 

Sample Entity

FooBase : EntityBase, IMedia, IEntityId<MediaKey>, System.IComparable,
System.ICloneable, ICloneableEx, IEditableObject, IComponent,
INotifyPropertyChanged

 

The System.Data classes implement most of these as well and that's why I
find them so convenient.

 

Greg



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