Yeh, it's looking better. Send the team over to the Office team next <g> Next hurdle is the debugging experience ;)
|-----Original Message----- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Kean |Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 3:07 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: In praise of DirectoryInfo Framework 4 | |Don't worry, we're thinking a lot about how to make this better. Have you seen |WinRT that we're providing in Windows 8? It provides a much more smoother |experience for interoping with native code, and exposes Windows native types in |concepts that feel nature for .NET developers. For example, to .NET developers |all native collections implement the same interfaces as the BCL collections, such |as IEnumerable<T> and IList<T>. Primitives, string, Uri, etc are all interchangeable |between native and managed. And you can use the new async features the same |with the native APIs as you can with managed APIs. | |While you can still have a choice to use p/invoke and normal COM interop to |interact with 'classic' native code, going forward you are going to see more and |more Windows APIs exposed using WinRT. | |-----Original Message----- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy |Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 8:42 PM |To: 'ozDotNet' |Subject: RE: In praise of DirectoryInfo Framework 4 | |Hi David, | |Actually I tend to agree with you on that to some extent. I do like the narrower |scope that the dynamic keyword offers, and I do like some of the other features |like overloading methods with optional parameters (has been on my long time |request list for VB to allow for smoother versioning). |That said, I think C# has been a decade late in coming to the party, and it's about |time the party got out of the disco era ;) We've got some really cool things like |embedded interop classes (guess that means technically they are no longer PIA's |<g>), but we're still writing unverified code at design time that we know isn't |going to change: the problem is the metadata isn't presented at design time. This |impedance mismatch, such as exposing so many COM properties as Object due |to the old IDispatch etc, is just screaming for a better interaction with managed |code, be it metadata assemblies, duck typing/ pseudo interfaces etc. | |If we know enough at design time to write the member name in code yet |intellisense can't guide us on that, and we are forced to forego any compiler |checking on naming, types etc, then really the IDE and tooling has failed in its job. |Dynamic in C# is great, be it ten years late, but it's a distraction from addressing |the real issues, IMO . | | | ||-----Original Message----- ||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- ||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Kean ||Sent: Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:35 PM ||To: ozDotNet ||Subject: RE: In praise of DirectoryInfo Framework 4 || ||While I like C#'s dynamic better than VB's (although I'm sure if Bill's |still floating ||around he'll argue differently) - VB actually supported 'dynamic' from ||day |1 . J || || || ||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- ||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas ||Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 6:15 PM ||To: 'ozDotNet' ||Subject: RE: In praise of DirectoryInfo Framework 4 || || || ||You are right of course, David. || ||Strange that this page <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en- ||us/library/system.io.directoryinfo.enumeratedirectories(VS.90).aspx> |exists, ||more than a year after its last edit date . obviously it is a problem ||with |the MSDN ||doco since the .enumeratedirectory (etc) doesn't work with v3.5 target. || ||I have been using v4.0 for all disk file traversing, and for the ||Dynamic |keyword in ||C# 4.0 - I think this will be in Visual Basic too, when the v4.5 ||Framework |is ||released. || || || ||________________________________ || ||Ian Thomas ||Victoria Park, Western Australia || ||________________________________ || ||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- ||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Kean ||Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:00 AM ||To: ozDotNet ||Subject: RE: In praise of DirectoryInfo Framework 4 || || || ||Pretty sure we added the EnumerateXXX in 4.0, not 3.5. || || || ||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- ||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas ||Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 7:56 PM ||To: 'ozDotNet' ||Subject: RE: In praise of DirectoryInfo Framework 4 || || || ||There's always a What's New <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en- ||us/library/ms171868.aspx> when a new Framework version is released. ||And, I was correct - those (originally-cited) methods were in v3.5. But ||the |.TryParse ||additions I had not seen. | |
