On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Stephen Price <[email protected]>wrote:

> I know where you are coming from. There is a cost for a company when
> they abandon a product. To this day, I will never buy a HP again. They
>

Aww.  (cries)


> abandoned my laser printer and my palm pilot. Printer works fine, if I
> stay with windows XP. It actually won't work anymore. There's probably
> some fine print somewhere saying to bad, I'm on my own there.
>
>
You mean the printers that rely on most of their s/w functionality being in
the computer, rather than PS or PDL in the printer?


> My Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 is still waiting for an Ice Cream Sandwich
> update. I could put it on there myself if I want the pain that goes
> with that. Or buy one of their new products that has ICS. Marketing
> ploy or are they just busy making it work properly so the support
> calls don't come in when they roll it out?
>
>
I've got a 10.1 Samsung, possibly I don't want ICS if it makes it unstable.
 If Samsung introduce it, I guess I'll go for it.

I wouldn't buy that size again, it's uncomfortable size to use as a ebook.


> I'm not saying its a good thing but Microsoft are not the first to do
> this. Won't be the last. It's still being driven by humans, and we
> aren't perfect.
>

Sniff.  speak for yourself :)


>
> The real question is, so what are you going to do about it? Complain
> on here on this list or go and do something about it?
>
> Still can't believe Scott dragged my face into this. That's just low. ;)
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Bill McCarthy
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Stephen,
> >
> > Yes phones will be out of date, the question is whether it is months or
> > years. In Australia, typical contracts are 24 months, and I'm pretty sure
> > the ACCC told telcos they had to warranty devices for the length of the
> > contracts. So two years is fair to expect to be a current lifetime;
> > obviously there will be hardware improvements in that time, but the
> software
> > and apps available you'd reasonably expect to be current. Apple deal with
> > that by controlling the release dates of devices to a new device a year
> and
> > OS support roughly of +1: hence you can be sure to get two years of being
> > current.  Android has been all over the place, but the big players such
> as
> > Samsung are also moving to give that period of currency by providing OS
> > updates (eg Galaxy II).  For Windows Phone there isn't that.
> >
> > Personally the thing about this I dislike the most is not the fate of my
> own
> > phone (I do like my lumia), but that I can no longer recommend to people
> > they currently buy a windows phone. This is the real shame. It'd be a lot
> > better if people could upgrade: would probably still be worth waiting for
> > the newer devices for NFC. The sooner they get the new devices out the
> > better.
> >
> >
> > |-----Original Message-----
> > |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
> > |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Price
> > |Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2012 8:29 PM
> > |To: ozDotNet
> > |Subject: Re: Windows Phone 8 announced
> > |
> > |Why don't you two get a room? :)
> > |
> > |In an attempt to throw petrol onto a cooling fire, Microsoft don't have
> to
> > make
> > |new devices backward compatible. Or forward compatible.
> > |They make decisions, like any project, on what new releases mean. I
> don't
> > think
> > |that assuming people will be happy to upgrade their phone for a newer
> > improved
> > |one is a bad one to make. These days the majority of phones end up in a
> > draw
> > |somewhere in less than three years. The phones cost almost nothing (if
> you
> > are
> > |on a plan where you got your phone for $0 and you get to the end of the
> > contract
> > |period, they don't make your plan cheaper for example.) You get the
> option
> > to
> > |upgrade to a newer phone. If your phone is older than 2 years old then
> > phones
> > |are not that important to you (or you're money priorities lay elsewhere)
> > and no
> > |amount of new features would compel you to upgrade.
> > |
> > |I, for example, have three phones. Android, Iphone, and Windows phone 7.
> > Thats
> > |just the phones I carry in my bag, I have no idea how many phones I
> have at
> > home
> > |in the draw somewhere.
> > |
> > |Your phone will be out of date. Its just a question of how long that
> will
> > take. I'm
> > |kinda stunned that's news.
> > |
> > |As for you two fighting over what information was available, and what
> > |assumptions people made about if they can upgrade their new phone or
> not.
> > |heheh... it really really must tick you off. I'm not taking sides, I
> don't
> > care. It's
> > |been too long since anyone's butted heads on this list so, good times!
> > We'll all
> > |look back on this and laugh. If you have any sense. Take a deeeep
> breath,
> > and
> > |step outside. You know, outside where there's sunshine and people
> walking
> > about
> > |without computers n stuff. :) We're all in this together, ya know.
> > |
> > |And.... Go.
> > |
> > |On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:15 PM, .net noobie <[email protected]>
> > |wrote:
> > |> what you not happy to basically call me  a liar on the list?
> > |>
> > |> you want meet face to face now... what to have a fight?
> > |>
> > |> over a telephone???
> > |>
> > |> I am not the one who has the problem bill, i am fine thanks
> > |>
> > |>
> > |> On 27 June 2012 15:03, Bill McCarthy <[email protected]
> >
> > wrote:
> > |>>
> > |>> Hi David Thiessen,
> > |>>
> > |>> |so... no not after the fact, as much as your ego would like to think
> > |>> |it
> > |>> is....
> > |>> |
> > |>> |seriously, get over it, you act like a child who's mummy will not
> > |>> |buy him a
> > |>> lollie in
> > |>> |the supermarket
> > |>> |
> > |>> |yeah and you can't read, thats what i said i assumed
> > |>> |
> > |>> |you need to get over your self mate, have a cry mybe
> > |>>
> > |>>
> > |>> Okay, that's EOC here.  If you want to email me of list or discuss
> > |>> this face to face feel free to email me directly at
> > |>> [email protected]
> > |>>
> > |>>
> >
>



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