I would have thought by now virus / security for mainstream issues has been streamlined given companies also are opting in for the "BYOD" scenarios?
--- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote: > No enterprise I’ve ever done work for uses the in-built Microsoft > virus/malware tools because there are no central management tools for them > (you have to go to Forefront Endpoint Protection/SCEP instead). The license > for Microsoft Security Essentials (from memory) prohibits you from using it > orgs with more than 10 users anyway.**** > > ** ** > > Secondly, most enterprise end point protection tools do FW, AV, HIPS, NAC > etc in one tool, with one reporting console. **** > > ** ** > > That’s why hardly anyone (to date) in big orgs uses the Microsoft stuff.** > ** > > ** ** > > Cheers**** > > Ken**** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes > *Sent:* Friday, 19 April 2013 11:46 AM > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?**** > > ** ** > > Don't disagree i put all of that under the SOE readiness banner.. I have > seen a few organisations that use AV as a blocking issue for migration as > assuming you get all the other change management protocols under control if > the slightest hint of "Your computers aren't protected" appears they in > turn pounce on it.**** > > ** ** > > I've also seen a fight break out or two electronically over the merits of > adopting a 3rd party virus scanner over the inbuilt one within Windows 8 > given the total amount of "patterns" aren't int he 90's+ compared to the > inbuilt one being in the 60s+... I think the end was that the Windows 8 > didn't cover off all virus's given that most of the virus's that aren't > being covered dont "exist" anymore or have not shown any signs > of reappearing or rely on old ways to breach the OS ...**** > > > **** > > --- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.riagenic.com**** > > ** ** > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > AV clients aren’t a blocker for most enterprise client migrations. > Usually the blocker is the huge cost involved, due to the large number of > people involved in getting the release out**** > > **** > > - Need to go and gather requirements from many business units**** > > - Need to go and find out all the differences (e.g. new security > settings/defaults) between the old platform and the new one, and then get > the security group (and regulators etc.) to sign off on the new proposed > standard**** > > - Need to do sociability testing of all the base infrastructure > (including end-point protection, but also VPN clients, monitoring tools, > deployment tools, asset tracking tools, provisioning tools, procurement > tools)**** > > - Need to do sociability testing of business apps (e.g. a big > bank will have hundreds of apps)**** > > - Need to create the necessary builds, scripts etc. and update > deployment infrastructure to cater for the new platform.**** > > - Need to validate which hardware models the new build will > actually work on, and work to retire the rest**** > > - Need to work out how to migrate existing user data during the > upgrade process**** > > - Need to get all the necessary support in place (e.g. floor > walkers), plus user guides / self-help training etc, negotiate roll out > schedules with business units blah blah**** > > **** > > For really big orgs, with hundreds of thousands of seats, you never really > finish one upgrade before you’re already planning the next one. The > end-point protection client is probably the least of the issues.**** > > **** > > Cheers**** > > Ken**** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes > *Sent:* Wednesday, 17 April 2013 6:05 PM**** > > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?**** > > **** > > The reality is most Enterprises that have moved to Windows 7 aren't likely > to rush out again on Windows 8, they'll probably want the dust to settle > and lot of time the stalling point for migration between Operating Systems > isn't just SOE red-tape its often because Virus scanners themselves haven't > gotten their act together to produce a solid build for the latest edition > (i'm looking at you Symantec) ..... oh yes despite their being a built-in > Virus scanner in Windows 8....**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > ** ** >
