Just Pro, AFAIK.  You'd think that the hardware for Android would be a good
match for RT, though?

Query for Microsoft:  is RT available as a piece of software, or only sold
with hardware?

Mike

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Ian Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, I was going to raise that with you off-list Mike. The ones I know of
> are the (Android) Slate 7 range and the ElitePad 800 and 900 (Win8 and
> Win8Pro) – quite a different price bracket, though. I didn’t know there was
> a Windows8 Slate (WinRT ?). ****
>
> ** **
> ------------------------------
>
> **Ian Thomas**
> Victoria Park, ****Western Australia********
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
> *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2013 12:13 PM
>
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: VS2012 hacks****
>
> ** **
>
> *I* have to smile at HP releasing Slate with either Android or Windows8
>  on it.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> (disclaimer, yes, I work for HP, and this isn't an official HP opinion,
> but a personal one)****
>
> ** **
>
> Mike****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Ian Thomas <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> It’s Greek to me J - but was Scott subconsciously associating designs
> (skeumorphs) with stock keeping units (SKUs)?****
>
> But aren’t all Apple designs perfect? I have to smile at the grudging
> praise of Microsoft Surface (the hardware) by the Apple fanbois. ****
> ------------------------------
>
> Ian Thomas
> Victoria Park, Western Australia****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
> *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2013 9:33 AM****
>
>
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: VS2012 hacks****
>
>  ****
>
> Nice quote.  Google says it's *skeuomorphism *though.  (what kind of
> language puts euo in that order???)****
>
>  ****
>
> Mike****
>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Scott Barnes <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> iOS7 is what happeneded the night of Steve Jobs funeral as they all sat in
> a bar listening to Whitesnake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOJk0HW_hJw)
> doing lines of cocaine and suddenly reliving your 80's and after then
> upgrading your digital skuemorphism to the next circle of design hell ...
> 80's iOS ..it's the mullet Steve would have wanted.****
>
>
> ****
>
> ---
> Regards,
> Scott Barnes
> http://www.riagenic.com****
>
>  ****
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM, mike smith <[email protected]> wrote:**
> **
>
> I don't get Apple design.  How could the designers of OSX have come up
> with a dog like iOS?****
>
>  ****
>
> Mike****
>
>  ****
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Scott Barnes <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> VS2012 design could have been worse.. Apple could have designed it :)****
>
>  ****
>
> http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/780667831.jpg?1371031013
> ****
>
>  ****
>
>
> ****
>
> ---
> Regards,
> Scott Barnes
> http://www.riagenic.com****
>
>  ****
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Ian Thomas <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> Greg, Greg – I put it down to the UIX guru / fiend that obviously exerted
> great influence over the PMs and higher-ups in Microsoft. ****
>
> I can’t stand Office 2013 – I appreciate some features, but find some of
> the behaviours and the UI itself just counter-productive (ie, anti my
> productivity). I don’t think I am resistant to change. I removed it, in
> favour of Office 2010 (incidentally, I never used Office2007 and took to
> the ribbon OK). ****
>
> There is another VS2012 hack that I omitted – NiceVS. It overlaps with one
> of the other hacks that I listed. ****
>
> NiceVS****
>
>
> http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a36021f0-770a-4258-854e-724e9d12b8a6
> ****
>
> I hate to have to do these things. ****
> ------------------------------
>
> Ian Thomas
> Victoria Park, Western Australia****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:30 AM****
>
>
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: VS2012 hacks****
>
>  ****
>
> Ian (et al), I have also taken a lot of steps recently to restore
> old colours and behaviour to recent Microsoft product releases. I don't
> normally do that. We all expect complaints when new versions of products
> are released, but in my experience the noise quickly drops away and people
> just accept the changes and run with them. However, the amount of stubborn
> resistance recently has been quite startling. Why is this happening?****
>
>  ****
>
> Microsoft is dragging us all along with it on some sort of global style
> change where there is less chrome, fewer borders, less saturated colour,
> fewer lines, etc. Now I can honestly understand this because the eye and
> brain work better with less clutter, but it all seems to have gone too far
> (remember the first preview of Visual Studio 2012 that looked like a
> charcoal etching?). Is there some department or research within Microsoft
> that is driving this trend? Do they explain their reasoning? Where did they
> recruit the drugged gibbons they put through the usability testing?****
>
>  ****
>
> And then there's Windows 8 ...****
>
>  ****
>
> Greg****
>
>  ****
>
>
>
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> --
> Meski****
>
>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv****
>
>
> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills****
>
>  ****
>
>
>
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> --
> Meski****
>
>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv****
>
>
> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills****
>
>
>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> --
> Meski****
>
>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv****
>
>
> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills****
>



-- 
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