Not only does the bill not cover webmail (they can only record that you used 
gmail/outlook/whatever but not who you emailed etc), but it also doesn’t do 
anything about public wifi.. So, if you are going to organise a terrorist plot, 
do it at McDonalds or your local shopping center and then you’ll be completely 
safe.


Or, get a VPN or use Tor and do it from home..









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From: Andrew Tobin
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎27‎ ‎March‎ ‎2015 ‎1‎:‎38‎ ‎PM
To: ozDotNet





Obviously the solution is to make VPN technology illegal - can't have people 
circumventing it.



On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Greg Keogh <[email protected]> wrote:



So the bill has passed, opposed by everyone but the two major parties. Oh well, 
it's not all bad, as at least it was nice to see Libs and Labs finally 
cooperate on something, anything, and I'm sure they know what's best for us! 
Now, I don't want my metadata, or anything tracked by the government, and 
perhaps there are others in here who feel the same way. Senator Ian McDonald 
said that if you have nothing to hide then you having nothing to worry about, 
but I would urge him to go to Brandis' bookshelves and look for a book on the 
20th history of Europe to see if that changes his mind.




There are many overlapping questions here ... Exactly what is being stored? Who 
stores the metadata where? How is the data protected? Who can access it? How 
much will it cost the end users?




I learned in a radio interview this week that metadata for offshore webmail 
accounts like Gmail and Hotmail cannot be retained by Australian ISPs (I hope 
this is true). I presume that Australian officials will have to jump through 
unchanged hoops to request information about such accounts and activity, and I 
hope these hoops are reasonably narrow.




I'm not sure if they're planning to retain web browsing data, does anyone know? 
If so, rumours have it that using a foreign VPN is the easiest way around this. 
If so again, is it not too much of a burden to setup and run?




I reckon it would be cheaper if the Australian government just paid for a live 
data fed from Facebook and Google, as they already know more about us than the 
NSA.




TGIF, Greg

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