You can be an idiot on any diet. I wouldn't believe everything you read either. I've seen studies that totally contradict each other.
Just for the record I'm not actually vegan. I tried it a few years ago. As far as losing weight goes it is all about calories. Being healthy is a whole different thing. Anyway too off topic now On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, Piers Williams <piers.willi...@gmail.com> wrote: > OOTT: At the risk of starting a flame war, I'm going to call shenanigans > on this one (sorry Bec). Whilst most vegans probably have very healthy > diets (due to increased awareness of what they eat) there's nothing > inherent in veganism that actually ensures this, as a quick scan down the > vegan society pages confirms: https://www.vegansociety.com/r > esources/lifestyle/food-and-drink. Plenty of sugary treats in that list > described as vegan, even beans on toast is packed with the stuff. > > It's *not* about the calories. https://www.theguard > ian.com/society/2016/apr/07/the-sugar-conspiracy-robert-lustig-john-yudkin > > OOTT= off off-topic topic > > On 20 Jun. 2017 06:29, "Bec C" <bec.usern...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bec.usern...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> Yep that podcast is fairly good. Veganism also works for losing weight, >> very hard to eat excess calories on a vegan diet. >> >> On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, Stephen Price <step...@lythixdesigns.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','step...@lythixdesigns.com');>> wrote: >> >>> Totally agree on this point. I've been ketogenic for six months now >>> (lost 6kg in the first month, have plateaued now but feel great). Some .net >>> people may know Carl Franklin's been podcasting at 2ketodudes.com, and >>> he's done an awesome job recording his progress. 6 months and he lost 80lb >>> and is no longer type 2 diabetic. >>> Got so much out of it, I backed his kickstarter project to turn his town >>> keto for a weekend. Flying out with my wife in a couple of weeks. Will be >>> seeing the sights in New York, then up to New London for ketofest. >>> Btw, you don't have to be over weight to suffer the damaging effects of >>> too much carbs/sugar. The inflammatory damage in your veins can't be seen >>> from the outside. >>> >>> One of the strange side effects I have noticed is that some days I >>> forget to eat. Today, I had accidentally turned off my alarm so was running >>> a bit late. Went to work with no breakfast, had one coffee at work, and >>> worked right through lunch as I hadn't taken anything and office is a bit >>> of a drive from places to eat. Barely noticed. >>> Don't miss sugar. Finding some awesome recipes along the way. Recently >>> made deep fried chicken crumbed in pork rinds combined with Parmesan >>> cheese. >>> So good. Hmm... this might possibly be the first recipe shared on this >>> elist. :) >>> >>> Anyway to keep on topic, had a standup desk and my last project, one of >>> those motorised ones. Great for exercise and strengthening but not losing >>> weight. What you put in your body has way more effect in that regard. You >>> can lose weight with zero exercise, but exercise is important for other >>> reasons. I.e. Preventing muscles wasting away. If you don't use it, you >>> lose it. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Stephen >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> >>> on behalf of Piers Williams <piers.willi...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Monday, June 19, 2017 8:46:35 PM >>> *To:* ozDotNet >>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Sit/stand desk results >>> >>> There are quite a few people in my office now using sit-to-stand desks. >>> I sent a scary article around about a year or so ago about the health >>> issues, but I think it's mostly the availability of reasonable quality >>> converters (Varidesk etc) that's really changed things. >>> >>> I'm between offices too much to have one myself (I'd need 3), so I just >>> concentrate on having a regular walk around the office instead, and having >>> all meetings as stand ups. And - on the insulin front - be sure to read up >>> on (and cut down on) the sugar that's crammed into everything these days. >>> >>> On 19 Jun. 2017 14:33, "Tony Wright" <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Tom, >>>> >>>> No, not the back for me. They say that your body stops regulating >>>> insulin properly after 4 hours of sitting, and that's about when I was >>>> feeling unwell/lethargic from sitting. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Tony >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Did you switch to this for a specific reason (lower back problem for >>>>> example)? If so did this help at all in a noticeable way? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, 19 June 2017, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Tom, >>>>>> >>>>>> It changes for me. Sometimes I stand, sometimes I sit. If I feel that >>>>>> I've been sitting for too long, I hit the buttons and stand for a while. >>>>>> I'm not regretful for one second that I have the option. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Tony >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey folks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I recall a while ago discussion into sit/stand desks and was >>>>>>> interested in how people went with this setup. Did those that tried >>>>>>> standing get any good (or bad) results? Are they still doing it or went >>>>>>> back to only sitting? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
