Dear Sally I agree with what you say and wish the number of those who do not want to go along with this petty hoop jumping like proving a woman can wee after a birth - find the strength to change this perversion of what should and can for the majority of women be normal like peeing even in the abnormal environment and manner they are asked to do it in. I mean the human species really should have died out in the dark ages if birth is so difficult that so many need inductions, episiotomies, forceps & C/SD As Sally said it does the head in following the possible consequences of these perversions(Unnatural birth) can lead -particularly after seeing what is psossible when birth is natural!! Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "sally westbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Sadie Geraghty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:47 PM Subject: RE: midwifery models
> > Hi there. > > So much of what goes on in the hospitals do my head in! Thank god I've only > got 4 more weeks to go in the system before I return back to private > practise!! > > I can't see any purpose in this practice of wee measuring but it does really > just reinforce the idea that birth is not a normal process. I have not seen > it done anywhere else that I have worked. > > And while I'm thinking about crazy hospitals I would like to say much I > admire the midwives who work within the system for change. The constant > advocacy and sometimes conflict I could not endure on a daily basis (6 > months has nearly driven me crazy) so my hat is off to you. > > Midwives who work for change within the system are vital and your work is so > valuable. For each woman who receives support from one midwife who really > cares and struggles for best outcomes and works within a best practice model > change comes and a difference is made for that woman, for that midwife and > slowly (for it is surely that is the system) change is made. > > Peace and Joy sisters. > > Sally Westbury > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Denise Hynd > Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2001 6:29 PM > To: Sadie Geraghty > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: midwifery models > > > Dear All > Can you help Sadie out here > Thank you > Denise > > Dear Sadie > I have passed your email onto the Ozmidwifery list > I would feel the same as you. I never encountered this in my training in the > UK but have in the past here in WA. > Needless to say at home we just make sure the woman has voided and and all > else is well before we go home after a birth. > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sadie Geraghty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 10:22 PM > Subject: midwifery models > > > > > > Dear Denise, > > do you have any midwifery models/policies on passing urine after delivery? > > Where I am here in the UK, we have to get the women to measure and record > > their urine output for 24 hours after normal birth. It's doing my head in! > > Look forward to hearing from you, > > warm wishes, > > Sadie > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sadie Geraghty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 10:22 PM > Subject: midwifery models > > > > > > Dear Denise, > > do you have any midwifery models/policies on passing urine after delivery? > > Where I am here in the UK, we have to get the women to measure and record > > their urine output for 24 hours after normal birth. It's doing my head in! > > Look forward to hearing from you, > > warm wishes, > > Sadie > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
