Thanks Lois!
Love Sam

>From: "Lois Wattis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "sally westbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: midwifery models
>Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:02:02 +0800
>
>Hi Sally - just responding to what you've written about midwives working
>towards change within the hospital system.  All I can say is - Here! Here!
>It's a VERY hard road, but a worthy endeavour, as you say.  Keep up the
>fight, hospital midwives.  We value your efforts.  Best wishes, Lois Wattis
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: sally westbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Sadie Geraghty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:47 PM
>Subject: RE: midwifery models
>
>
>
>Hi there.
>
>So much of what goes on in the hospitals do my head in! Thank god I've only
>got 4 more weeks to go in the system before I return back to private
>practise!!
>
>I can't see any purpose in this practice of wee measuring but it does 
>really
>just reinforce the idea that birth is not a normal process. I have not seen
>it done anywhere else that I have worked.
>
>And while I'm thinking about crazy hospitals I would like to say much I
>admire the midwives who work within the system for change. The constant
>advocacy and sometimes conflict I could not endure on a daily basis (6
>months has nearly driven me crazy) so my hat is off to you.
>
>Midwives who work for change within the system are vital and your work is 
>so
>valuable. For each woman who receives support from one midwife who really
>cares and struggles for best outcomes and works within a best practice 
>model
>change comes and a difference is made for that woman, for that midwife and
>slowly (for it is surely that is the system) change is made.
>
>Peace and Joy sisters.
>
>Sally Westbury
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Denise Hynd
>Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2001 6:29 PM
>To: Sadie Geraghty
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: midwifery models
>
>
>Dear All
>Can you help Sadie out here
>Thank you
>Denise
>
>Dear Sadie
>I have passed your email onto the Ozmidwifery list
>I would feel the same as you. I never encountered this in my training in 
>the
>UK but have in the past here in WA.
>Needless to say at home we just make sure the woman has voided and and all
>else is well before we go home after a birth.
>Denise
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sadie Geraghty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 10:22 PM
>Subject: midwifery models
>
>
> >
> > Dear Denise,
> > do you have any midwifery models/policies on passing urine after 
>delivery?
> > Where I am here in the UK, we have to get the women to measure and 
>record
> > their urine output for 24 hours after normal birth. It's doing my head 
>in!
> > Look forward to hearing from you,
> > warm wishes,
> > Sadie
> >
> >
> >
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sadie Geraghty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 10:22 PM
>Subject: midwifery models
>
>
> >
> > Dear Denise,
> > do you have any midwifery models/policies on passing urine after 
>delivery?
> > Where I am here in the UK, we have to get the women to measure and 
>record
> > their urine output for 24 hours after normal birth. It's doing my head 
>in!
> > Look forward to hearing from you,
> > warm wishes,
> > Sadie
> >
> >
> >
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