Congratulations Joy on a balanced and realistic response.  It's wonderful to
hear the ANF is supporting the midwifery model proposal to your Health Dept.
It seems like a dream now, but we all know it's the RIGHT way to go.
So lets keep dreaming and working towards an Australia-wide community based
midwifery service for birthing women.  Regards, Lois Wattis (Community
Midwifery Program WA)

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From: "Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:56 AM
Subject: RE: further to the 12 hour shift


> Tina's comment " we all know the ANF's position on the B Mid !!!" needs
> some comment.
> [I hesitate to do this, as I cannot speak for ANF or anyone else other
than
> myself - but here goes!]
>
> ANF has negotiated award pay rates for nurses working for employers.
>  Midwives come under that award in the current pay structure.  When a
> person graduates from a course as a midwife, (Grad Dip or B Mid) and is
> employed in a hospital as a midwife, the pay rate is applied whether the
> person is a member of ANF or not, and whether ANF agrees with B Mid or
not.
>  Anything new (such as B Mid) is going to arouse some pessimistic
response,
> and it's up to the students and the courses to prove their worth.
>
> There is a good article by a recent B Mid graduate, Carole Bastian, in
> Birth Matters Vol 5.3 Sept 2001.  Carole is a mature woman who graduated
in
> 1997 in Germany, and has been getting work in Melbourne maternity
> hospitals.
>
> B Mid graduates will need to show employers that they are worth their
salt.
> Any new grad needs to do that.  If B Mid midwives want to set up private
> practice, they will join a small group who struggle for our very
existence.
>  Not many people are able to make a reasonable income as midwives in
> private practice.
>
> Recent negotiations with ANF in Victoria have resulted in support by ANF
> for a Maternity Coalition proposal for community based midwifery to be
> available throughout the State. The model for this proposal is the WA
> community midwifery.  If anyone wants to do something really positive, you
> could write a letter to Lisa Fitzpatrick, the Vic State Secretary of ANF
> (Box 12600 A'Beckett St PO, Melbourne Vic 8006) and tell her that you
> support the community midwifery proposal.  Also the same letter to the
> Health Minister, Hon John Thwaites.  The Health department is currently
> considering the proposal.
>
> Many thanks
> Joy Johnston
> 25 Eley Rd  Blackburn South Vic  3130
> Tel: 03 9808 9614
> Fax: 03 9808 3611
> M: 04111 90448
> www.aitex.com.au/joy.htm
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: further to the 12 hour shift
>
>  << File: ATT00003.htm >> In a message dated 16/01/02 4:25:33 PM AUS
> Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>
> > To the aspiring midwives who inquire about pay rates may I humbly
suggest
> > contacting the various registration boards and the associated state,
dare
> I
> > say it, Nursing unions around Australia to see exactly where 'they' view
> > direct entry midwives in relation to pay scales, employment
opportunities
> > and accountability. Sorry but that's the system in place at present.
> > I have heard whispers from some noted quarters 'not on par with
> registered
> > nurse/midwife but along with enrolled nurse level'  which is rather
> unkind.
> >
>
>
> Hi Barb and all,
>
> thanks for the info and advice Barb. But from past postings on this list I
> think we all know the ANF's position on the B Mid !!! As to what I will be
> paid as a B Mid Graduate ???? Who knows ??? Its only just really occurred
> to
> me that at the end of my study, someone may actually pay me then for the
> 'work' I do !!!
>
> Industrialised/unionised midwifery isn't something I have alot of
knowledge
> of and experience with (you can say that again.... I hear a few of you
> whisper).
>
> The B Mid situation I feel is quite unique so I would imagine current
> nursing
> awards as they stand may not be applicable. However having said that,
there
> are some non-nurse midwives from OS working here in Australia already. So
> something must have been negotiated somewhere along the line for these
> midwives ??
>
> What I invisage in the future is many B Mid graduates/midwives negotiating
> their own contractual arrangements with their prospective employers by way
> of
> annualised salaries for their respective 'caseloads'.
>
> Yours in birth,
>
> Tina Pettigrew
> Birthworks
> Independent CBE and aspiring B.Mid Midwife.
> Convenor, Aust B. Mid Student Collective.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BMidStudentCollective
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> " As we trust the flowers to open to new life
>                - So we can trust birth"
> Harriette Hartigan.
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