Wouldn't it be great if there was a program like this in every Capital City?
Regards Carol

>From: "Peter & Amanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Greg Barbara Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,        
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: further to the 12 hour shift
>Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 10:41:17 +1100
>
>Hi Barb
>I too feel passionate about supporting the midwives of the future with some 
>sort of consolidation of practice and have therefore developed such a 
>program at the Mater Mothers in Brisbane. The program is called Advanced 
>MIdwifery Praxis (AMP) and is offered to new graduating midwives as well as 
>existing midwives. The program is for 12 months, involves clinical 
>rotations to 5 areas (antenatal clinic, maternity unit, delivery suite, 
>special care nursery and private antenatal/postnatal wards) with mentoring 
>in each of the areas. The program is credit worthy towards a Master of 
>Midwifery - 10 credit points (1 subject) and therefore has theorectical 
>input (advocacy & negoitation in midwifery, praxis, action learning, 
>reflective practice, and clinical input). There are 3 assessments 
>associated with the program - reflective journal, advanced midwifery 
>competencies, action learning project. As yet we have not yet formally 
>evaluated the program, as the first program started Sept 2001, but verbal 
>feedback is very positive and new midwives appreciate this consolidation of 
>practice . At present we take 5 midwives into the program every 6 months.
>
>Amanda Carter
>Clinical Lecturer - Midwifery
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Greg Barbara Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     Date: Wednesday, 16 January 2002 16:21
>     Subject: further to the 12 hour shift
>
>
>     To all,
>     I hope this email doesn't result in more hate mail and virus poisoned 
>posts which seems to occur when one posts differing views on this list but 
>in view of Judy's posting of my initial reply I felt it was also necessary 
>to post my response to balance the debate and I have also asked some other 
>questions
>
>     To the aspiring midwives who inquire about pay rates may I humbly 
>suggest contacting the various registration boards and the associated 
>state, dare I say it, Nursing unions around Australia to see exactly where 
>'they' view direct entry midwives in relation to pay scales, employment 
>opportunities and accountability. Sorry but that's the system in place at 
>present.
>     I have heard whispers from some noted quarters 'not on par with 
>registered nurse/midwife but along with enrolled nurse level'  which is 
>rather unkind.
>
>     As various nursing/midwives conference motion agenda items are being 
>prepared may I also suggest midwives specifically direct any midwifery 
>related agenda items to be discussed  at the next conference start 
>submitting to the local branch of QNU and associated unions. Get involved!
>     One I have already submitted through our local QNU branch is along the 
>lines that graduate midwives be supported in the post graduate year similar 
>to what Queensland Health presently offers graduate nurses. Presently here 
>in the SE Qld we have produced excellent graduate midwives but alas they 
>are having trouble gaining employment in metropolitan hospitals which 
>provides supported practice and instead are re-entering nursing or working 
>in rural areas without support with mid clients few and far between.
>     Cheers Barb
>
>
>     To: "Judy Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     Subject: Re: 12 hour shifts
>     Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:19:22 +1000
>
>     Judy,
>     No problems there Judy because its the "on call" status after their 8 
>hour
>     shift which is allowable in the award. However, these midwives will 
>have to
>     be careful fatigue doesn't come into their practice because there is 
>no
>     protection for them from the QNC.
>     When you described 12 hour shifts (without the on call factor) on
>     ozmidwifery I knew it was not possible in QLD. Could you please 
>correct this
>     fact on the list before other unionised participants on the list 
>expire?
>
>     How many times does the on call midwife get 'called' in? Do the 
>midwives
>     prefer this system? The reason why I am asking is I am the only 
>practicing
>     midwife on the Industrial Policy committee of the QNU which has looked 
>at
>     several applications for 12 hour shifts in many areas but each QNU
>     conference the submissions get voted down by members. We are currently
>     reviewing a submission made last conference where after working 12 
>hours or
>     more nurse/midwives will be required to have a full 24 hours off to 
>prevent
>     fatigue. What is your opinion of this?
>     Recently, I saw an application to the SBU that QH wanted to close the 
>McKay
>     birthing teams project as quote 'it wasn't meeting clients needs'. Do 
>you know
>     anything about that?
>
>
>




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