Congratulations Sally  on  making the space  for  that  woman to birth her 
babies. 

I recently had the opportunity to observe 2 sets of twin births about a week 
apart. The first woman (a multip)came into labour spontaneously at home so 
that by the time she was admitted etc.. she was fully. So, the birth proceded 
naturally, she did allow an IV for the hospitals protocol for the 2nd twin 
but it wasn't needed as everything just proceded beautifully, midwives 
delivered both babies with OB and peds standing by, but not needed. Hospital 
/OB protocols re the epidural were not followed.  The second woman was not so 
lucky, the twins were her first pregnancy, the second twin was diagnosed as 
IUGR so she was induced at 39 weeks. OB insisted on an epidural, there were 
language barriers so the woman was not able to effectively refuse, although 
she was 9+ cm when the epidural was finally in place. Second stage was rushed 
to say the least with the OB using a vacuum on both babies (I think 2.6 kg 
and 1.9 kg respectively). Babies were fine but cared for by the peds as mom 
proceded to have a postpartum hemorrhage despite a barrage of oxytocics on 
hand and had to be sent to theatre. She had  a torn cervix not uterine atony 
or placental fragments. Anyway, after seeing that birth of twins, I cannot 
imagine recommending IOL for a  healthy twin pregnancy at term, it just 
seemed to make it all so much worse. To be honest, I can't imagine 
recommending IOL for a complicated twin pregnancy either, I mean if you have 
IUGR going on then you have problems with placentation and sufficient blood 
to the compromised baby, couldn't/wouldn't you be making a bad situation 
worse by causing uterine hyper stim.. I guess I am wondering, if you are 
concerned about the babies' inutero environment and want them born, in that 
scenario wouldn't either a cesarean if they have to be born NOW be better or 
if it really isn't that urgent, waiting for a natural more gentle (perhaps) 
labor? I don't know? Has anyone seen a twin birth with IOL and epidural on 
board go smoothly? marilyn
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