On 10/10/02 12:31 AM, "Kirsten Blacker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Often the placenta of a stillborn baby goes to pathology for examination to
> try and find a cause for the FDIU
> 
> Kirsten
> 
> 
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> From: "Larry & Megan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:22 AM
> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Lotus birth
> 
> 
>> Thankyou Jan,
>> I appreciate how busy you are.
>> It sounds like an experience you will have with you forever. Lotus birth
> is
>> a beautiful gift for a baby born still.
>> We cut the cord on our third baby after a few hours and the arteries and
>> vein were visibly sticking out the end, also amazing to see.
>> If people can bare with me on the morbid stuff, I would like to know what
>> the standard practice(hospital care)would be for a known still baby, in
>> regards to the placenta?
>> 
>> thanks again
>> Megan.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jan Robinson
>> Sent: Tuesday, 8 October 2002 5:30
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Cc: Shivam Rachana
>> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Lotus birth
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/10/02 10:34 AM, "Larry & Megan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Jan wrote
>>> "Rachel and Scott's baby boy, Alejandre was born through water around
>> lunch
>>> time into the arms of both parents where he stayed until his placenta
> was
>>> born and gently collected (a lotus birth again, as was Stella's")
>>> 
>>> Jan, can you please explain to me if Lotus birth is any different in the
>>> case of a stillbirth baby, time it takes etc? Is the palcenta kept with
>> the
>>> baby forever? Sorry if this is a bit upfront but I am genuinely
>> interested.
>>> 
>>> thankyou
>>> Megan.
>>> 
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>> 
>> Hello Megan
>> I seem to be ages getting to respond to this - but for your information,
>> Stella's placenta stayed with her in the little placenta bag her grand
>> mother had made for it. The placenta was kept clean, wrappings changed
>> daily. It was salted on day two and we put a few drops of lavender oil on
>> the outside of the bag on day four. We kept Stella's skin beautiful with
>> calendula cream that stopped it drying out.
>> 
>> Stella was cremated in her best clothes and her placenta in it's little
> bag
>> lying beside her and still connected. Her ashes are complete in a special
>> sealed container with her photograph on the outside.
>> 
>> With Alehandre (AJ) the placenta was floated in a plastic culender and
>> allowed to "drip dry"for an hour or two.
>> After that, Scott and I removed any blood clots from the maternal surface
>> and the placenta was wrapped in white chux towels that were changed
>> frequently during the first 24 hours. By that time the placenta had shrunk
>> dramatically to about one third it's original size and the cord had
>> shriveled too.
>> 
>> The shrunken placenta was salted once there was no danger of any
>> transmission through to AJ (helps drying and reduces odor) During the next
>> few days the placenta stayed in it's bag and the cord became very brittle
> as
>> all the Wharton's jelly disappeared. It was fantastic to see the two
>> arteries and the vein coursing through the clear, dry cord tissue.
>> 
>> On day four the brittle cord broke so that was the end of the Lotus
>> connection between AJ and his placenta. The small amount of cord stump
>> remained until he was a week old.
>> 
>> Scott and Rachel are waiting until AJ's umbilicus has completely sealed
> over
>> with new skin before he gets to shower with his father.
>> 
>> What a lucky baby AJ is - he could not have gotten off to a better start.
>> He goes for walks each day in the fresh air in his "Hug - a - bub" and
> after
>> that he usually spends the rest of the rather hot days we are having here
> in
>> Sydney reclining semi-naked on a bean bag. Nights are spent tucked in with
>> his mother and father.
>> 
>> Oh what a beautiful feeling to be so honoured to be involved with such a
>> special family.
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Dear Megan
With Stella we took samples from the placenta for investigations and also
blood samples from her mother - Neither showed anything unusual.
Jan

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