On 8/10/02 9:05 PM, "Vicki Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Love to you, Jan ... And love and warm wishes to Rachel and Scott... I
> met them at Katoomba and again when Nic and I came for "Singing the
> Bones"...Blessings, Vicki
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jan Robinson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 6:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Shivam Rachana
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Lotus birth
> 
> 
> On 1/10/02 10:34 AM, "Larry & Megan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Jan wrote
>> "Rachel and Scott's baby boy, Alejandre was born through water around
>> lunch time into the arms of both parents where he stayed until his
>> placenta was born and gently collected (a lotus birth again, as was
>> Stella's")
>> 
>> Jan, can you please explain to me if Lotus birth is any different in
>> the case of a stillbirth baby, time it takes etc? Is the palcenta kept
> 
>> with the baby forever? Sorry if this is a bit upfront but I am
>> genuinely interested.
>> 
>> thankyou
>> Megan.
>> 
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> 
> Hello Megan
> I seem to be ages getting to respond to this - but for your information,
> Stella's placenta stayed with her in the little placenta bag her grand
> mother had made for it. The placenta was kept clean, wrappings changed
> daily. It was salted on day two and we put a few drops of lavender oil
> on the outside of the bag on day four. We kept Stella's skin beautiful
> with calendula cream that stopped it drying out.
> 
> Stella was cremated in her best clothes and her placenta in it's little
> bag lying beside her and still connected. Her ashes are complete in a
> special sealed container with her photograph on the outside.
> 
> With Alehandre (AJ) the placenta was floated in a plastic culender and
> allowed to "drip dry"for an hour or two. After that, Scott and I removed
> any blood clots from the maternal surface and the placenta was wrapped
> in white chux towels that were changed frequently during the first 24
> hours. By that time the placenta had shrunk dramatically to about one
> third it's original size and the cord had shriveled too.
> 
> The shrunken placenta was salted once there was no danger of any
> transmission through to AJ (helps drying and reduces odor) During the
> next few days the placenta stayed in it's bag and the cord became very
> brittle as all the Wharton's jelly disappeared. It was fantastic to see
> the two arteries and the vein coursing through the clear, dry cord
> tissue.
> 
> On day four the brittle cord broke so that was the end of the Lotus
> connection between AJ and his placenta. The small amount of cord stump
> remained until he was a week old.
> 
> Scott and Rachel are waiting until AJ's umbilicus has completely sealed
> over with new skin before he gets to shower with his father.
> 
> What a lucky baby AJ is - he could not have gotten off to a better
> start. He goes for walks each day in the fresh air in his "Hug - a -
> bub" and after that he usually spends the rest of the rather hot days we
> are having here in Sydney reclining semi-naked on a bean bag. Nights are
> spent tucked in with his mother and father.
> 
> Oh what a beautiful feeling to be so honoured to be involved with such a
> special family.
> 
> Jan
> 
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Dear Vicki
Rachel and  Scott have some great video footage of her lotus waterbirth.
Are you still looking for stuff?
Love
Jan

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