Wow, Lois did it really contract the uterus? ummmm. interesting. What was interesting to me was that it was used for a couple of hundred years as a spermicide (by the known sexually promiscuous Cassanova et al), apparently effectively, seems like it also reduced infection (it really wacked the HIVvirus in the program), so maybe despite being irritating, if the woman had lacerations its infection inhibiting properties would over ride this. I find ancient medicines really interesting.
marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois Wattis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] catslyst > Hmmmmmn.... thought provoking. I remember reading MANY MANY YEARS ago, in > an ANCIENT medical encyclopaedia (pre 1900 I think) about the use of a cut > lemon inserted into the vagina and applied with pressure to the cervix of a > woman who was experiencing PPH to instigate contraction of the uterus. I > remember being ahgast (sp??) at the thought of lemon in a just-birthed > vagina, but it was a desperate situation calling for desparate measures in > pre-ergometrine days. > > Stranger, simpler things have been shown to be effective against viruses - > eg. teatree oil, and rose oil for treatment of HSV2. Maybe the HIV > researchers SHOULD consider all possibilities. Lois > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilyn Kleidon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 11:32 AM > Subject: [ozmidwifery] catslyst > > > I am wondering if any of you saw a segment on the ABC TV program "Catalyst" > last night (Thursday night) which featured a retired OZ OB/GYN and his > rather innovative and somewhat retrospective idea for an anti-AIDS drug: > Lemon Juice. Apparently (according to this doc) Cassanova had his women use > the cut off end of a lemon as a cervical cap which apparently prevented > conception and the pH of lemon juice whould kill the aids virus. Anyway some > researchers have determined that it is a spermicide and it also kills the > virus invitro. There was some speculation regarding the pH of the lemon > juice being irritating to the vagina (suggested application was with a > cotton wool swab soaked in lemon juice) and thus possibly having the same > effect as non-oxynol 9: vaginal irritation providing a rouite of entry for > the virus and thus increasing the risk of infection despite being a > viruscide. Anyway what do you all think? The focus was on AIDS in developing > countries and the increasing incidence amongst women and cost: since it is a > naturally occuring product that can be grown just about anywhere it is an > accessible item and a birth control option too. Has anyone put lemon juice > in their vagina? If you have did it hurt or irritate? If it does irritate > could that be an indication of a vaginal infection and hence a portal of > entry for a virus?? I am going to get a lemon. I just thought this was > really quite interesting. > > marilyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "barbara glare & chris bright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] How awful is this! > > > > Dear Joy, > > > > I read the message, but have since deleted it. I believe the question on > > the booking form was (filled out at 6/40) was "are you intending to have > an > > elective caesarian? If so give date" It would have been against the ABA > > code of ethics to identify the hospital, so we have no way of knowing > which > > hospital it was. It was just commented on as a point of interest > > (amazement) > > > > Love, Barb > > > > -- > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
