I wonder what the pH is compared to the pH of the vagina? Have to go to the textbooks, I think ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Kleidon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] catslyst
> Wow, Lois did it really contract the uterus? ummmm. interesting. What was > interesting to me was that it was used for a couple of hundred years as a > spermicide (by the known sexually promiscuous Cassanova et al), apparently > effectively, seems like it also reduced infection (it really wacked the > HIVvirus in the program), so maybe despite being irritating, if the woman > had lacerations its infection inhibiting properties would over ride this. I > find ancient medicines really interesting. > > marilyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lois Wattis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 4:34 AM > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] catslyst > > > > Hmmmmmn.... thought provoking. I remember reading MANY MANY YEARS ago, > in > > an ANCIENT medical encyclopaedia (pre 1900 I think) about the use of a cut > > lemon inserted into the vagina and applied with pressure to the cervix of > a > > woman who was experiencing PPH to instigate contraction of the uterus. I > > remember being ahgast (sp??) at the thought of lemon in a just-birthed > > vagina, but it was a desperate situation calling for desparate measures in > > pre-ergometrine days. > > > > Stranger, simpler things have been shown to be effective against viruses - > > eg. teatree oil, and rose oil for treatment of HSV2. Maybe the HIV > > researchers SHOULD consider all possibilities. Lois > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marilyn Kleidon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 11:32 AM > > Subject: [ozmidwifery] catslyst > > > > > > I am wondering if any of you saw a segment on the ABC TV program > "Catalyst" > > last night (Thursday night) which featured a retired OZ OB/GYN and his > > rather innovative and somewhat retrospective idea for an anti-AIDS drug: > > Lemon Juice. Apparently (according to this doc) Cassanova had his women > use > > the cut off end of a lemon as a cervical cap which apparently prevented > > conception and the pH of lemon juice whould kill the aids virus. Anyway > some > > researchers have determined that it is a spermicide and it also kills the > > virus invitro. There was some speculation regarding the pH of the lemon > > juice being irritating to the vagina (suggested application was with a > > cotton wool swab soaked in lemon juice) and thus possibly having the same > > effect as non-oxynol 9: vaginal irritation providing a rouite of entry for > > the virus and thus increasing the risk of infection despite being a > > viruscide. Anyway what do you all think? The focus was on AIDS in > developing > > countries and the increasing incidence amongst women and cost: since it is > a > > naturally occuring product that can be grown just about anywhere it is an > > accessible item and a birth control option too. Has anyone put lemon juice > > in their vagina? If you have did it hurt or irritate? If it does irritate > > could that be an indication of a vaginal infection and hence a portal of > > entry for a virus?? I am going to get a lemon. I just thought this was > > really quite interesting. > > > > marilyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "barbara glare & chris bright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 11:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] How awful is this! > > > > > > > Dear Joy, > > > > > > I read the message, but have since deleted it. I believe the question > on > > > the booking form was (filled out at 6/40) was "are you intending to have > > an > > > elective caesarian? If so give date" It would have been against the > ABA > > > code of ethics to identify the hospital, so we have no way of knowing > > which > > > hospital it was. It was just commented on as a point of interest > > > (amazement) > > > > > > Love, Barb > > > > > > -- > > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > > > > > > > -- > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > > > > -- > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
