I have been with so many women who have had short labours and the nearest way
I can describe it, and mostly the women agree is: it is like a tornado has
picked them up, blown them around and then unceremoniously dumped them with no
concern for how they feel. Seems to me that women who have a labour much shorter
than about 4-5 hours start to feel like that.
Judy
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I remember two labours which stand out in particular - both
primigravidas.
One given 2mg prostins at 36/40 for PIH - hard contractions began
immediately - one on top of the other (cervix on insertion posterior
long
and closed). Dr went off not expecting anything to happen, and often
when
women have PIH, they labour fast, as if they know that the babe
(placenta)
needs to be born to keep them (all) safe. I took her to the birthing
room
within 15 mins of prostins being inserted - into bath and within 2
hrs she
was feeling the babe move down and gave birth in the next 1/2 hr -
remember
this was her first labour.
The other woman was term - IOL for large babe, but this woman is also
tall -
gorgeous and statuesque. Same situation - 2 mg prostin, cx long,
posterior,
firm and closed. 3 1/2 hrs later I literally 'caught' a 12 lb 3 oz
baby boy,
as she stood up. Huge PPH afterwards. Not a wonderful beginning to
motherhood and life on the outside for this little (not-so-little)
one.
These women did NOT want a short labour and rapid birth the next
time!
Imagine what this medication offering shorter labour would have meant
for
these women and their infants - I shudder to think! Totally awful
labour and
birth - so fast that they literally did not know what was happening,
or
perhaps an inverted uterus? Ruptured uterus?
Bizarre how these (new drugs) are seen as advances, and it never
ceases to
amaze me at how persistent the efforts are to improve on something
which is
already pretty amazing and works just fine (or else the world would
not be
so populated, and we would have died out as a race long ago). What IS
it
about labour and birth that scientists just have to keep on trying to
change
it! Smacks of the Maleus Maleficarium (sorry, don't know the
spelling, but
that book that the witchburners used to classify who were witches and
why,
and then they meted out punishment to those they saw as interfering
with
God's will), only the boots seem to be on different feet and the ones
hanging or burning just might be the women this time.....
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it's about 3 hours I notice. They dont like it shorter than 3 hours.
somehow they feel robbed of the experience, like it was over before
they had
a chance to really get into it.
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I have seen many women who have experienced short labours (including
protin labours) who are completely overwhelmed both physically and
emotionally from the expereince, and I am not talking about the
overwhelming
experience of birth either....they shake and are in a stse of shock.
It is
often difficult for them to integrate what has happened and later,
many of
them ask for a longer labour and gentler birth next time. It's like
their
minds and bodies can't catch up with the other.
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"speeded up with prostaglandin gels or synthetic hormones"
Hmm- OR synthetic - which supports the pig semen theory. (sorry!)
And my concern in what about moulding? Doesn't a lot of
moulding happen as far as the mothers body, hips and pelvis etc.
I know a girl who had a really short labour but then went into
shock.
Rhonda
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a proposed drug to reduce the time of first labour to 2-3 hours
by softening the collagen in the cervix! The scientists reckon it
doesn't
hurt more, (but then again they might have been blokes :-)).
Website listed below.
Love Kate
PS What about all those women who were already going to have
quick births??
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http://www.ivenus.com/family/news/LC-notebook1-wk40.asp
less labour?
If only childbirth weren't such hard work. it may soon get
easier, thanks to a new drug.
The move is on to shorten childbirth via a new drug that is due
to be tested later this year, according to a report in the New
Scientist.
The theory is that a shorter labour should be less painful and
require less intervention on the part of doctors. The average time
that most
first-time mums spend in labour is around 18 hours, and while this
can be
speeded up with prostaglandin gels or synthetic hormones, these drugs
can
make labour unbearably painful and may make women feel the urge to
push
before the cervix is fully opened. This in itself can lead to
complications.
The new drug, developed and patented by Britain's Medical
Research Council, may cut the average labour down to only two or
three
hours. Most of the long, painful hours of labour are spent as the
cervix
slowly opens from tightly closed to 10 centimetres.
Many women feel they have been in labour forever and rush into
the hospital expecting to deliver instantly only to be told they are
just
two or three centimetres dilated! For most women (although there are
those
who have quick births), dilation of the cervix is a slow process. The
new
drug, however, is designed to speed up this process by softening the
collagen in the cervix. It is likely to be administered either
through gel,
cream, microcapsules or injection, although as yet it is not known
what form
it will take. So far it has only been tested on monkeys. In these
cases, the
Scottish firm Ardana Bioscience, which has the licence for the new
drug,
reports it worked very effectively.
By Marianne Hartigan
Maternity Coalition NSW
www.maternitycoalition.org.au
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