I totally agree, feral Tina. Having always rejected
being a lady myself, can't believe I've actually used the term. And, like
Denise I am wondering about the derivation of woman. I suspect it is along the
lines she outlined. a regular dictionary isn't very helpful.
Just an aside though, I have been at birth with
some amazingly "ladylike" women in their non birthing life: I mean the full twin
set and pearls, knees together routine and they just dropped it at the
door when it came to birth. Earth mothers in the birthing chamber. So, sometimes
you never do know what really matters to someone until the cards are on the
table, even with many hours of antenatal are.Or maybe because of, I mean being
able to drop the "lady" persona at birth.
marilyn
Hi Denise and all....oh how I find all this really interesting....a midiwfe friend shared her experience once of a local OB who insisted on calling her 'Sister'.....this woman certainly did not enjoy his reference to her as sister...and after repeated requests that the Dr. call her by name and no progress....she replied to him one day...."yes no worries bro"..and what a response this provoked...he quickly got the hint and from that point on only referred to her by her name....:-)) With regards to the lady thing.....this is a term that really gets my hackles up....most of the time its said with the best of intentions and I respect this...but I think as Kathleen says...it is a term that comes with many connotations and expectations that women will be 'good girls'....subordinate....submissive, passive etc....I hear Dr.s refer to their 'ladies' all the time.....'Ladies' congers up for me the 'too posh to push' senario...Birthing women need to lose themselves in labour....dig deep for the 'wild woman within' and express themselves however it works for them to birth their babies...it is expected that ladies don't swear....don't shout, don't make noise, don't shit, don't get their clothes off and walk around naked in front of others...expose their genitals.....if birth was 'lady-like'...and all women were expected to behave like ladies....Oh....I shudder to think what would become of birth then... yours in birth, feral TinaXX |
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