RE: [ozmidwifery] pelvic exams

[Ken Ward]

We learn by doing the exam on women, with their consent, and awareness that we are students.  In the days I did mid training they may not have been aware we were students. Lets face it, we all have to learn our craft, and internal exams can only be learnt by practical means. Like birthing your first baby, or giving that first injection, theory can only teach so much.   After awhile an astute, trusting midwife doesn't need to do a lot of exams.   Most women are very happy to have students caring for them especially those having third etc babies.         Maureen -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jo & Dean Bainbridge Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] pelvic exams How do midwives learn how to preform pelvic exams? Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith & love... ----- Original Message ----- From: Carole Claxton To: CMOB Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:48 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] pelvic exams I was flabbergasted when I read this,  but don't know how true it is!?! What a dreadful thing to do to women without their knowledge!! Carole Medical schools alter pelvic exam policies Some of the nation's leading medical schools have abandoned a little-known, decades-old practice of letting students perform pelvic exams on women without their consent while they are under anesthesia. http://www.msnbc.com/news/883838.asp