I think Rhonda that in the USA this was the time period that a Dr. De Lee came into his own with episiotomies: wonder of wonders. Forceps were also used quite routinely as well as restraint for mothers (amazingly enough they did tend to thrash around a fair bit though supposedly not being "in pain". I have read in the intro or first chapter of Jean Sutton's book "Optimal Foetal Positioning" that despite this, up to 80% of women delivered without operative procedures, though this probably did not include episiotomy which had become pretty standard at the time. "Twilight sleep" was quite different fom chloroform. I think the childbirth education movement of the 50's and 60's in the USA saw the demise of the popular use of twilight sleep. Also the American College of Nurse Midwives was formed in the mid 1950's (1954 I think) and they were instrumental in removing it as a method of  pain relief in many though not all hospitals over time. In many ways I think yoiu could say that twilight sleep gave birth to the natural childbirth movement and consumer advocacy in childbirth as well as homebirth and many of the many forms of midwifery in the USA.
 
marilyn
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From: Rhonda
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 6:16 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] twilight delivery - or twilight baby?

Hmm - Thank you all so much.  Very interesting.  I would have thought that it would have created problems with bonding and feeding etc - however they probably promoted bottle feeding too??
 
I would expect that there would also have been problems with tearing and rupture etc - just thinking that the woman would have no control or feeling and so would not really know when to push etc and so it would interfere with the natural process.  Just my thoughts on it.
 
Anyone know why it stopped - I guess it was because of problems but there would no doubt have been some sort of catalyst to stop it?
 
Thanks Again
Rhonda 
 
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Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 23:01:09
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] twilight delivery - or twilight baby?
 
Queen Voctoria started it. Well, they experimented on her and it was she that advocated how wonderful it was!
----- Original Message -----
From: Rhonda
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:19 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] twilight delivery - or twilight baby?

Hi, all of you knowledgable women,
 
I was talking to a friend today who said that her sister in law who was born in the 1940's claims to be a "twilight baby"?  Apparently her mother - who has passed away now and cannot explain the reason - had her first child as a natural delivery - the second was this weird delivery where she went into hospital on her due day not in labour  - got put to sleep and then woke up having delivered the baby vaginally while asleep or in twilight! 
The next two were normal, natural births.
Does anyone know about this practice - obviously not done now days - i presume!
 
She was curious about how it was done and why it may have been done.
 
Any ideas?
 
Regards
Rhonda.
 
 
 
 
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