Denise, i think we have all looked after 'labouring' or birthing women who
do not experience pain as anyone else would know it.  i destinctly remember
one woman who walked into my labour unit at 8cm with a few 'aches' (very
mild 
suprapubic  discomfort with contactions which had benn 15 minly, and became
5minly on arrival at hospital. she was a multi and figured this was labour
because of the regularity. if she had been asleep she would have most likely
slept through them. even her birthing didn't bother her much, although i
agree that she couldn;t have slept through that

love  Bethany 

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From: Denise Hynd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 20 June 2003 13:13
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Dear Rhonda
when the cervix is fully open the subsequent contractions will involuntarily
push the baby out without extra voluntary effort from the woman whetehr
awake or asleep!I love the stories of women who sleep through labour
naturally??
Denise
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From: Rhonda 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 6:16 AM
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Hmm - Thank you all so much.  Very interesting.  I would have thought that
it would have created problems with bonding and feeding etc - however they
probably promoted bottle feeding too??

I would expect that there would also have been problems with tearing and
rupture etc - just thinking that the woman would have no control or feeling
and so would not really know when to push etc and so it would interfere with
the natural process.  Just my thoughts on it. 

Anyone know why it stopped - I guess it was because of problems but there
would no doubt have been some sort of catalyst to stop it?

Thanks Again
Rhonda 

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Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 23:01:09
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] twilight delivery - or twilight baby?

Queen Voctoria started it. Well, they experimented on her and it was she
that advocated how wonderful it was!
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From: Rhonda 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:19 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] twilight delivery - or twilight baby?


Hi, all of you knowledgable women,

I was talking to a friend today who said that her sister in law who was born
in the 1940's claims to be a "twilight baby"?  Apparently her mother - who
has passed away now and cannot explain the reason - had her first child as a
natural delivery - the second was this weird delivery where she went into
hospital on her due day not in labour  - got put to sleep and then woke up
having delivered the baby vaginally while asleep or in twilight!  
The next two were normal, natural births.
Does anyone know about this practice - obviously not done now days - i
presume!

She was curious about how it was done and why it may have been done.

Any ideas?

Regards
Rhonda.









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