Re: [ozmidwifery] Term Breech Trial

[Lynne Staff]

I imagine that the women were in the lithotomy position. I haven't read it for a while - can anyone tell me the rate of epidurals the women had? Whether they were all hooked up to CTGs? The experience of the 'accoucheurs', whether the women were able to be upright and active? Whether they had amniotomies? How often they were disturbed in labour? How many people (not chosen by the woman to be there) were present for the birth? Whether there were time limits imposed on the women? I could go on and on.....There are so many confounding factors in any study that involves humans, thus encoaching on human rights. Time to evolve new research paradigms methinks, to become evidence based for humanity's sake! ----- Original Message ----- From: Marilyn Kleidon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Term Breech Trial Well, it couldn't have been a randomised controlled trial if the women could have chosen either a c/s or a vb. it must have been approved by the ethics committee, so the women must have agreed to be in the trial and so must have known they would be randomally assigned? I hope, one can only hope. I have read critiques of the trial and I think the main problem was the variability of experience of the birth attendants also I think they had to be obstetricians not midwives. Could be very very wrong, am very willing to be corrected. marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Kristin Beckedahl To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:02 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Term Breech Trial To all you wise and inspiration women on this list;   I'm a C.B.E student hoping to get some feedback on the Term Breech Trial - what are your opinions on the limitations of this trial......?  Do you think it should have continued for the full 5 years?  Is the fact that these women were 'randomly assigned planned CS or planned VB' contradict the purpose of this trial....? Do you think if all of them had the opportunity to choose themselves which type of birth they would have liked, results would have been different....?   Any feedback would be most welcomed! Cheers, Kristin     E-mail just got a whole lot better. New ninemsn Premium. Upgrade now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.