Could I have some details please on where Selangor Hospital is? Thanks Julia Willoughby ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne and Caroline McCullough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 9:52 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] C/S in Sydney Morning Herald
> Lynne, this is so true and especially so for certain religious groups. > For instance, As a Christian I was brought up believing that labour was > a curse becaue Eve sinned in the Garden of Eden. When I was pregnant > with Daniel I found out that this was a false interpretation of the > scripture with "pain" actually meaning "work". Basically, the story goes > that God told Eve labour would be hard work not a living hell but > somehow the idea of pain took hold! Sadly, many women still think of > labour this way, (even my mother who had one entirely pain free, drug > free birth) and sadly, they see a caesarean as a way to avoid this > "curse". > > Strange though it may seem, this thinking permeates our Western culture. > Another point that exacerbates this is that we don't share stories and > we don't birth in communities anymore. Women used to birth surrounded by > the other women in their lives. We take off for the hospital with bag in > hand. Our mothers birthed in hospitals and jumped through whatever > ridiculous hoops the doctors made them jump through and many came out of > it having had very undignified and disempowering experiences thinking > that was just the way things were. > > I don't know how we can change this perception when so few women > actually get to experience a totally natural delivery. Even if induced a > woman still considers her labour "natural" and thus thinks it hurts to > bejeebus. I think books like the one Sarah Buckley is currently working > on will help alter that perception but it will take a lot of information > campaigning to change a paradigm that has existed for several > generations. > > This SMH article has deeply disturbed me and yet, many normal average > people would wonder what all the fuss is about because they see > caesareans as normal and pain free. I guess we just have to keep > chipping away a the block and hope that someone listens and exposes > these trials for what they are... Nazi experiments! > > Feeling quite hot under the collar... > > Cas. > > Ps: I still have pain from my scar and epidural after 5.5 months! That's > not exactly pain free is it? > > Cas McCullough > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.casmccullough.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Staff > Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2003 9:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] C/S in Sydney Morning Herald > > > "there is this trial which gives you a 50-50 chance of totally avoiding > all this pain........" A father-to-be I saw the other day, whose wife > has had 2 caesareans (and is having the devil of a time finding anyone > to support her for a planned vaginal birth), made the very pertinent > point that 'natural' (read vaginal) birth is ALWAYS portrayed as the > worst pain a woman can ever have - too terrible to contemplate, > unbearable and totally avoidable, while the portrayal of caesarean birth > is ALWAYS pain-free, peaceful, smiles all round.....etc > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
