I agree Marilyn. Another sneaking suspicion in my mind is that in this trial, I am sure they will bring forward a qualitative arm, seeing if women prefer it. This is one trial where I don't think the researchers will stick to scientific findings only - they need women to prefer it, don't they? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Kleidon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] C/S in Sydney Morning Herald
> I just had this thought while having the morning shower: > > I think the idea of a RCT for Vaginal vs c/s birth is flawed (as we have all > said) not only ethically but in a true epidemiological sense, I mean > isn't/wouldn't it be comparing the proverbial apples and oranges? Isn't it > a bit like randomising a group of healthy people (who agreed to be in such a > trial??) to prophylactic appendicectomy (sp) or appendicectomy for symptons > only to see if elective removal of the appendix was a safer procedure? Now > wouldn't the prophylactic group have better outcomes at least in the > immediate post surgery period than those who waited for onset of acute sx? > fewer post surgery infections etc?? I mean for such a trial to have any > meaning over the life time wouldn't you also need a group of healthy people > who never had an acute episode which needed an intervention? Even so it is a > fruitless meaningless trial which could only prove that prophylactic surgery > was better? > > The same with the c/s trial. It has to be stopped. It is a set up. > > marilyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "*G and S*" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:34 AM > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] C/S in Sydney Morning Herald > > > > Have heard it said that since most women in > > Australia are having 2 children these days, 2 c/s is not such a bad thing > > like why risk a vaginal birth ( said by a woman). It just breaks my heart. > > Too many failed inductions, too many interventions, too much fear. > > > > thinking of going fishing > > > > marilyn > > > > > > *I think we'll be at the same fishing spot and in the same boat!* > > Sonia. > > > > -- > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
