Dear All,

I have been with many women who have had abortions for many reasons and in
my expereince they do not enter in to it as coldly and wilfully!

Even if they did I find it hard to believe that any just get over it, most
carry pain, particuarly late terminations are not easy as they labour and
birth a still born child!!

I have problems with a Them And US, Good and bad mentality most things but
particuarly if you have never had to face anything like those we label or
treat as Them.

It is one reason I do not belong to a religion as I find little humanity in
any judging others because they have different skins or do not do as we
would, particuarly when we are not where they are and do not how they got
there but presume.......

Are we asa society not responsible for each other? including the vulnerable
and sick.
I can not believe any one is born sick in the heart the world makes them!

I have trouble enough with other double standards of our sanctimonious
system in this example  a woman who takes drugs antenatally is bad but come
labour it is ok for us to encourage heror others to have them why is  the
baby suddenly not at risk.......????????
Denise Hynd

"Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  For,
indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."
Margaret Mead
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Abby and Toby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] WOMAN CHARGED OVER STILLBIRTH


> > Maybe this could deter illegal drug use in pregnancy though.......
>
> I agree that this is what they are trying to do, but it still seems
ironic,
> that a woman can choose to have her baby killed but a woman can't
> "accidentally" kill her baby by drug use.
> I know we all have differing views on abortion, but other people have got
to
> see the ridiculousness of this. I mean, abortion is a violent act
resulting
> in the death of a baby............surely, that is equal to a drug addict
> causing the death of her newborn.
> I just find it hypocritical. Thousands of women choose to have their
babies
> killed and it's fine, sometimes the government pays for it to happen. Yet
> this woman who is a drug addict, "accidentally" causes the death of her
baby
> and she is facing life in prison??? I just don't think it makes sense.
> I think too, that there are heaps of other ways of deterring drug use eg
> support before, during and after pregnancy, better info etc etc.
>
> Love Abby
>
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