Jo, I can hear your frustration. I think though, many midwives may be expending their energy to change things at their actual place of work rather than in a wider political forum. It's frustrating for many at the moment - the system is so bloody slow to change - and now we have another liberal government! See you at the next MC meeting? love, Liz. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean & Jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Uniting midwives & midwifery students
> Kirsten said it was a joint fight with women and midwives. > > I agree totally but something that i have noticed n the last few year of > being a very active consumer fighting for midwifery issues is the lack of > mutual support. I was asked at last minuite to attend a public forum > discussing childhood issues from before birth to 8 year old. I went to > discus how impotant access to midwifery led care can be for a family and > when i asked if any midwives were going the reply was something like No we > cant be seen pushing our own barrow (my wording). It annoyed me as the > commitment to attend this meeting meant missing out on my children again for > another night that week, petrol money and the fact that even after a day of > work I was not getting home until after 11pm... > > Funnily enough the meeting was 90% full of either teachers or child care > workers all highlighting issues they ad their clients face in their field. > Why is it okay for them to be there but not for a midwife? This is not > really an isolated incident. > I am aware of the power of the consumer but: > Just remember next time that we need supprt and some consideration > also...consumers are not the union for midwifery issues! > my vent lol > Jo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Callum & Kirsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 12:33 PM > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Uniting midwives & midwifery students > > > > So true Louise, > > In NZ there is a saying.......woman need midwives need woman.... > > > > It is usually shown with the words forming a circle... > > > > Unfortunately there are still so many woman out there who don't know what > > a midwife could offer...It is really sad. I know our branch of ACMI are > > looking at taking it back to ground level and getting out there and > > educating woman on what a midwife is and what we offer... > > > > Without the woman of NZ being so political and vocal, midwives wouldn't be > > where they are now in NZ. It was a joint fight between midwives and woman, > > and it paid off. > > > > How do we get that here? Firstly i guess we need to unite midwives. > > > > Personally i don't give a toss where we train, whether it's RN or direct > > entry. As far as i'm concerned how you train does not make the midwife. As > > a Bmid student i get alot of critisicm about not being an RN, and some > > hospitals have asked when i would be doing my RN's as until then i am > > unemployable to them! > > > > The amazing midwives who i am learning from up here in the NT, and the > > same ones who are being devistated by the legislation up here are RN > > trained midwives and i couldn't ask for better mentors! > > > > But back to the public support, what do we do to unite as midwives and > > then to unite as woman and midwives??? > > > > Kirsten > > Darwin > > > > ~~~start life with a midwife~~~ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Geoff & Louise Wightman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 12:04 PM > > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Uniting midwives & midwifery students > > > > > >> My biggest concern is that the postnatal area seems to be fair game as an > >> area for RN's to move into as it would seem the value of a midwife in the > >> eyes of management only extends to birth suite. Should we not ask the > >> general public to consider this issue? Who would they like to give them > >> the best care a midwife or an RN that has had a quick orientation to the > >> postanatal area? Without public support, midwives will be fighting a > >> losing battle as economics takes over. > >> In dispair Louise > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Sadie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:51 AM > >> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Uniting midwives & midwifery students > >> > >> > >>>I thought RN's couldn't work on labour ward because of insurance? > >>> At KEMH even agency midwives (excluding Nurse West) cannot work on > >>> labour > >>> ward because the insurance does not cover them. > >>> > >>> Sadie > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > >>> Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > >> Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > >> > >> __________ NOD32 1.889 (20041008) Information __________ > >> > >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >> http://www.nod32.com > >> > >> > > > > -- > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
