I can't imagine, even in our incessant desire to 'know' the baby before it
is born throguh ultrasounds etc that any women would be happy if she knew
how it was obtained
----- Original Message -----
From: "Isis Caple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp


> Jo, Mercy Hospital for Women and Royal Womens in Melbourne.
>
> I am so glad for the responses I have had so far. I had never heard of
this
> happening, I truly thought it was a joke being played on me. Yet for 2
> different women in two different hospitals to share their experience of it
> was mind boggling. How many other women and their babes experience this
yet
> don't realise the realities? The reality being it is basically useless. At
> least now I am aware of it and I can give my clients options, if and when
> the alligator forceps are brandished. But then some women would love to
have
> a lock of their babes hair stickytaped to a piece of cardboard before it
is
> born. Would go nicely beside the whiz bang 3D/4D ultrasound snapshots.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean & Jo
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 March 2005 10:09 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp
>
> That's is what I feel about this Kristie...what happens if babe was
> presenting face first and you pokes their eye out with this thing!?  My
> AROM had already been preformed and the dr used the alligator thingies
> with me.  It is one of the clearer memories I have of that stage of
> labour.  I remember the way in which the dr looked at the hair with that
> stupid almost comically quizzical look and said "well dark hair it is!"
> AS if I cared!!
>
> I thought that perhaps it was some way of getting some feotal blood to
> sample but there was nothing recorded on the notes that the procedure
> had been done or the results.
>
> Anyone else heard of this??
>
>
> Isis, can I ask where this was done?
>
> Jo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristie
> Orchard
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:23 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp
>
> Goodmorning
> Although I have seen ARM performed with forceps I've never seen it being
>
> done with the express purpose of trying to pull baby's hair or skin
> (thankfully!).
> Is it presumed no hair = no head ?!(as opposed to not engaged/bald,etc)
> I wonder if the practitioner performing this procedure would like their
> head, face, bottom, testicles or other presenting body part tugged with
> a
> surgical instrument when just trying to be born?!
>
> Kristie
>
> >From: "Isis Caple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subject: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp
> >Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:35:01 +1000
> >
> >Hi ladies,
> >
> >
> >
> >Can anyone shed some light on this procedure for me please?
> >
> >
> >
> >A pair of flat bladed (like tweezers) scissors being used to perform an
> >amniotomy with the possibility of fetal scalp hair and skin being
> 'pulled'
> >at the same time.
> >
> >
> >
> >A good friend of mine only recently shared this experience with me
> about
> >her
> >son's birth (August 2003). Apparently she and her husband were warned
> that
> >hair and/or skin may be pulled, if hair was pulled it was a good
> indication
> >of the babe being head down. After the procedure was performed, her
> son's
> >hair was presented to them on a piece of cardboard.
> >
> >
> >
> >This was verified by another woman who overheard and shared her similar
> >experience. I have never heard about this procedure, I can't find
> reference
> >to it in any of my texts, or on the net. I must be looking in the wrong
> >areas.
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks- Isis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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