what she meant by mechanically was that she thought the babes actually couldnt be born vaginally ie mechanically impossible to fit out ! not referring to instrumental delivery
she thought categorically that face presentation was an absolute indication for caesar/forceps.
 
yes it seems people who talk of delivering women and babies really do seem to do that. i wonder how much difference it would take if this language was changed? just simple things like people often say 'im going to deliver a baby' rather than 'im going to help a woman birth/deliver her baby.' simple words that would presumably make women feel much more in control and important in the whole process, rather than a bystander who is 'delivered'
 
here is that photo diary
http://www.birthdiaries.com/diary/face.htm
 

Janet Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't know what mechanically delivered means unless they mean using instruments. However the radmid site has great links to stories and pics of face presentations.
J
 


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