No one has claimed the money he offered to prove hospital birth is safer than home birth either. I'm laughing a lot over this one! J ----- Original Message ----- From: "jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaccination
> > For your interest from avn. I wonder if anyone will come to the party??? > > Jo > > > January 29, 2001 THE FOLLOWING OFFER is made to U.S.-licensed medical > doctors who routinely administer childhood vaccinations and to > pharmaceutical company CEOs worldwide: Jock Doubleday, president of the > California nonprofit corporation Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc., hereby > offers $20,000.00 (U.S.) to the first medical doctor or pharmaceutical > company CEO who publicly drinks a mixture of standard vaccine additive > ingredients in the same amount as a six-year-old child is recommended to > receive under the year-2000 guidelines of the U.S. Centers for Disease > Control and Prevention. > > The mixture will not contain viruses or bacteria dead or alive, but will > contain standard vaccine additive ingredients in their usual forms and > proportions. The mixture will include, but will not be limited to: > thimerosal (a mercury derivative), ethylene glycol (antifreeze), phenol (a > disinfectant dye), benzethonium chloride (a disinfectant), formaldehyde (a > preservative and disinfectant), and aluminum. > > The mixture will be prepared by Jock Doubleday, three medical professionals > that he names, and three medical professionals that the participant names. > The mixture will be body weight calibrated. > > The participant agrees, and any and all agents and associates of the > participant agree, to indemnify and hold harmless in perpetuity any and all > persons, organizations, or entities associated with the event for any harm > caused, or alleged to be caused, directly or indirectly, to the participant > or indirectly to the participant's heirs, relations, employers, employees, > colleagues, associates, or other persons, organizations, or entities > claiming association with, or representation of, the participant, by the > participant's participation in the event. > > Because the participant is either a professional caregiver who routinely > administers childhood vaccinations, or a pharmaceutical company CEO whose > business is, in part, the sale of childhood vaccines, it is understood by > all parties that the participant considers all vaccine additive ingredients > to be safe and that the participant considers any mixture containing these > ingredients to be safe. > > The event will be held within six months of the participant's written > agreement to the above and further elaborated terms. This offer, dated > January 29, 2001, has no expiration date unless superceded by a similar > offer of higher remuneration. > > Contact Jock Doubleday at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > New Development: A pediatric chiropractor in Hamburg, Germany has recently > added his $200,000.00 "S-Series 600" Mercedes (Brabus E V12), including > shipping costs to the U.S., to Mr. Doubleday's original $20,000.00 Reward. > This Mercedes has been named "The Fastest Four-Door Sedan in the World" by > the editors of The Guinness Book of Records. The original $20,000.00 and > said Mercedes heretofore together constitute the Reward until such time as > an additional item or additional items are added to the Reward. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Megan & Larry > Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2005 1:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaccination > > Hi Jo, > > My experience is that we vaccinated our first son,wanted to question it but > we weren't at that place in ourselves, after his 12mth MMR, he was a very > sick boy and the hairs on the back of my neck stood up. Our GP at the time > was happy to say it was the vaccine, just give him 4 hourly paracetamol and > ignore the maximum dosage recommendation until better. There was no > reporting of the reaction. > A few years before that I had also been vaccinated by the same GP, for > "triple antigen" booster, ended up in emergency that night very sick and the > Dr accepted it as being a reaction to the vaccination, again no reporting. > > After our son's reaction to MMR, we started the research and reached the > decision not to continue vaccinating. Our three other children are not > vaccinated. > We have have done the tetanus threat after a hospital visit for a split lip, > but refused to be bullied into it out of fear. Again went home made some > calls, read a lot and chose not to vaccinate. > We have had a 4 month old baby being treated for suspected meningitis, but > it hasn't changed our minds on vaccination. > > I cannot trust the government literature as I know now personally and > anecdotally how much under-reporting there is of adverse reactions. It's not > good enough that those vaccinating us can ignore any consequences of this > treatment, despite clear instructions to report these side effects. > > And why do Dr's get paid to vaccinate us? If it is so critical to our health > and well-being why do the government have an incentive payment to Dr's per > vaccination? > > I can to tell you that not vaccinating my children is always with me. We are > always seeking more information to support or change our decision. Everytime > I go to the Dr's (which is hardly ever)I wonder how it will be respected. > What kind of reaction will I get from others at school etc. I don't see it > as a burden, I just have it with me as part of my parenting, like so many > other things. > > It's not an easy decision when you are starting out, like childbirth and the > choices we have with that, we do have to accept the benefits and > consequences of our actions. Parenting is a constant challenge, and we all > have our own notion of what is the best thing to do by our children. > > Welcome to the game of life. You can really only do what you believe to be > right at the time and after that don't look back just learn and move > forward. > > Also check out VISA at http://www.visainfo.org.au/ > > Take your time to be sure whatever you decide > > Megan (obviously with a lot to say) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JoFromOz > Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2005 10:58 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ozmidwifery] Vaccination > > Hi All. > > I don't want this to start a war or anything, but I would just like to hear > people's opinions (and why) on vaccinating babies. This is the week for our > first vaccinations (I declined Birth HepB) as William is 2 months old > tomorrow. We do want to get him vaccinated, it's just a matter of when we > start, and whether we get them all done together. > > Here is why I'm hesitant: > > He is only 2 months old, and not going to be going into any childcare in the > near future (at LEAST 12 months if ever). > > It isn't normal for a body to have to produce antibodies to 7 diseases all > at once - or is it? > I was thinking that it would be better to get only one injection at a time > so that if he reacts to something really badly, we will know which vaccine > to avoid next time. > > The diseases such as Hep B and tetanus, and Diptheria, etc aren't all that > likely to find my son just yet - or are they? > > However... > > Should I just do it and not make a fuss? Just follow the government's > schedule? > He is in contact with 3 adults who work in schools - would that be a reason > to vaccinate sooner rather than later? > > We have looked at pros and cons, and still can't come up with a concrete > decision. > Any opinions/info would be appreciated! > > Thanks, > Jo :) > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
