So how do you challenge a midwife or ob who insists on no noise? Kate (student midwife)
----- Original Message ----- From: "brendamanning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth Tanya, There are no implications, only observations. Some women are pressured into being quiet by caregivers for their own comfort or concern about other women being scared by noise. Some women are naturally expressive & others are self-contained. The issue is that they ought to have the freedom to be however they need to be during labour to get the job done. Women who have to suppress their natural urge to be vocal struggle with birthing because all there energy is directed inwardly not externally. The energy is trapped in her body & it just makes her work twice as hard. Really difficult to be a MW & be present with women struggling with themselves. If being vocal is not what she needs to be that's fine, but it's the freedom to choose that we are working towards. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tanya Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth > What is "self-control"? Are we implying that a woman who is silent in > labour has more or better "self-control" than a vocal woman???? I would > refer to it as expressive. > > Tanya. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "brendamanning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 5:37 PM > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth > > >> So true. >> Self control is not always an appropriate thing. >> Women who need to be "good" girls( for the reasons we all know about) >> have to use alot of self control in labour, it's really hard work for >> them, sad. >> >> Brenda >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Belinda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 2:45 AM >> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth >> >> >>> one thing that is coming out of literature which asks women about their >>> fears is that women significantly worry about how they will act in >>> labour. A huge Italian study found that it is one of the highest rated >>> fears women have. In my study it is certainly a reason that women use >>> drugs or epidural, or find relief in that they stop "behaving badly" >>> once the drugs shut them up/enable compliance. A huge part of womens >>> reflections of labour iis embarresssment in how they "behaved". I think >>> this is important to address because the idea of being quiet, compliant, >>> neat, tidy as in NOT messy, leaky noisy sweaty - really drives womens >>> fears and the choices they then make for labour. It is a great shame >>> that women have particular expectations of their behavior that is in no >>> way reassuring, okay, normal, wonderful, strong and vital to birth. >>> Belinda >>> >>> Luke M Priddis wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I'm a 1st year student midwife in NSW, i have asked a few questions on >>>> here before! I'm doing a group presentation with a creative arts >>>> element on the sounds women make during labour and birth - eg, how it >>>> can be beneficial, how some women don't make any noise (like myself!), >>>> and what society/media find or portray as being acceptable. >>>> Has anyone come across any research on this, read any good articles? >>>> Thanks for any help you may have, I find this group a fantastic point >>>> of information and inspiration : ) >>>> Holly (mum of four) >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. >>> Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. >> >> -- >> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. >> Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. >> > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
