Hi All
Just my 2 cents worth on when to do an epis. I remember some advice given at a conference some years ago, however I cannot remember if it was Andrea Robertson or Caroline Flint. But I have never forgotten the advice - If you think an epis is needed, just wait a little while then wait a little while longer. Once you have waited a while, just wait a little longer  and after waiting a little longer you will find that an epis was never necessary at all !
Catherine Pearson
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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] when to cut an episiotomy

I think many midwives can claim very good episiotomy rates. Mine over twenty years in "0". My virginal scissors get taken to each birth but have never been out of the packet except to be put in a new packet and re sterilised. Who else would like to celebrate their lack of desire or interest in cutting a woman's perineum.

Andrea Quanchi

On 21/08/2005, at 6:57 PM, Janet Fraser wrote:


I'm not one of the professionals in here, Paivi but hi anyway. : ) I've read in a few places about how episiotomy rates suddenly drop when studies into them begin. A hb MW I know does less than one a year so I figure that's a good guide.  Mostly in hospitals they're performed for no reason at all but the damage they do to women's bodies and psyches horrifies me. It's sanctioned genital mutilation. In birth planning meetings I run I suggest to women that they never put their bodies in a position that can be easily reached by someone with scissors. Our rates are very high in Australia. Well IMO, any rate of episiotomy is too high unless it's negligible.
Just my 2c ; )
Janet
----- Original Message -----
From: Päivi
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 6:31 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] when to cut an episiotomy

A mom asked me when is episiotomy really needed. She had asked from many professionals, and all just gave her the answer, that "They will try to avoid episiotomy, but will cut just in case, if not sure". In Finland the episiotomy rates are from 4% to 50%, and for firsttime moms from 9% to 88%!. It is usually beleived, that the midwife will know best. (That is a medicalaized hospital midwife in most cases). I already know, that you have a different opinion on  when it is needed, but it would be interesting to know from you, who work as midwifes, how often have you performed episiotomies? Does anyone know, what is the national average in the Australian hospitals?
 
Paivi

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