Hi Rachel,

It is difficult practicing in a new country no matter what you do, culturally 
Aust & UK are so dissimilar it's even more frustrating.

I am a Kiwi & am used to the NZ system which is very different to here. I find 
Aust women annoyingly passive & apathetic regarding midwifery & pregnancy 
generally, they are very American in their attitudes & beliefs & actually that 
drives me insane. In NZ we are much more "English", it took me ages to get my 
head around the 'user pays' system here. I still don't believe women should 
have to pay to have a choice in their pregnancy care or place of birth, it is 
their right, not privilege (hence I don't make a profit from my HB practice as 
I often don't charge women, I barter or suggest share care with the local 
birthcentreeMW Clinicc because it's free & they can see me for alternate 
visits, doesn't go down well with the political midwives in Melbourne so I keep 
it quiebirthcentree

I refuse to get tangled up in the 'insurance debacle", women will have the 
choice of birthing at home regardless as far as I'm concerned.

I do practice with back-up, all women book into a hospital in case transfer is 
required, I have a great network of alternative practitioners who work in 
collaborative practice with me & I can refer at any given time to a lovely OB, 
who is always available as an ear if I need him. I don't feel the need for any 
other presence, but I do have an extremely competent apprentice who is nearly 
finished her direct entry mid & we work very well together. I chose her because 
she sees Mid as a separate identity to nursing, has no fear of birth & sees 
pregnancy/maternity care as a state of health & wellbeing.

I have worked in a group/team practice before & whilst the guaranteed time off  
O/C was good that was the only thing that worked in it for me. I found it just 
wasn't my style of mid. The politics gave me the irrits & there is always the 
power & control crap that goes with groups that I have no time for.

So you could practice perfectly well without the insurance, back up or 
midwifery team because you'd build your own quite quickly once out of the 
system. I do sympathise.
Don't go for the supermarket option just yet, it sounds like it'd be a shame, 
their gain &midwiferiess' loss.
? look at NZ.(much nicer than Aust in every way!!) ......I am going home 
tomorrow for 3 weeks as I do every year & will check things out as I do every 
year ( but my children are here so my options are limited) . Would you like an 
update on what's happening there when I get back? Are you contracted to the 
hospital you are working for ?

Please don't stop your contributions to the ozmid, I enjoy your posts & things 
will get better, it's early days !!

Kind regards
Brenda Manning
www.themidwife.com.au





> wump fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Brenda,
> 
> I know exactly what you mean about thinking in lines and circles! I 
> think 
> this is my big problem. I think in circles in the hospital setting which 
> 
> does not go down too well.
> 
> As for why I am not attending homebirths. In the UK I attended 
> homebirths 
> funded by the NHS (medicare) and backed-up by the maternity system. I 
> worked 
> in a community team and we covered the on-call between 4 of us. I'm in 
> Queensland now and things are a bit different. If I want to do 
> homebirths I 
> would have to be an independent mw. I don't feel that I know the system 
> here 
> well enough after only 9 months. Also I would have to practise without 
> insurance or back-up or a midwifery team.
> 
> The hospital setting is very frustrating and I plan to escape within 2 
> years. Not sure where - research, education..... supermarket.
> 
> Rachel
> 
> 
> >From: "brendamanning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
> >To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
> >Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] The Advertiser today...
> >Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:11:25 +1100
> >
> >Rachel,
> >
> >Please don't 'shut up for now', as you know once you start 'not' saying 
> 
> >things it becomes a habit that they never get said at all!
> >Also I enjoy your posts !
> >
> >I wonder why you aren't attending homebirths here if you enjoy then so 
> much 
> >?  There is no money in it (not the way I practice anyway LOL) but if 
> it's 
> >where your heart lies then you make do somehow.
> >
> >I work bank at the birth centre to feed the family & homebirths in the 
> >community to feed my soul !
> >I totally agree with you, it requires a complete change of mindset when 
> I 
> >work for myself.
> >Work in the unit, (and I work in a very lovely liberal unit if you 
> >strrrrrrrrrretch the boundaries of the prescriptive policies )requires 
> my 
> >brain to function in a straight line. Alot of it is damage control & 
> >treating the symptoms which the system often causes.
> >However in my practice my brain works in a circle (if you can 
> understand 
> >the metaphor)  & focuses largely on preventing the problem occurring in 
> the 
> >first place. !
> >Not sure I can explain it but that's how it feels !
> >
> >With kind regards
> >Brenda Manning
> >www.themidwife.com.au
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "wump fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
> >Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 12:45 PM
> >Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Advertiser today...
> >
> >
> >>Tania - I didn't think you were having a go at all! In the UK I was 
> lucky 
> >>enough to gain experience of community based midwifery-led care 
> >>(homebirths etc) and midwifery-led care in a large regional referral 
> unit 
> >>(high risk heaven). It was interesting that I was perceived by 
> colleagues 
> >>as has having a higher level of skill and kudos when working in 
> hospital 
> >>on birth suite. Whereas, I felt I had to use a higher level of skill 
> in 
> >>the community setting.
> >>
> >>I think part of the problem in hospital based midwifery is where the 
> >>emphasis is placed in education and updates - for example, CTG 
> >>interpretation, resus, emergencies etc. There is kudo is being 
> competent 
> >>in the management of abnormal and emergencies. Unfortunately, there is 
> not 
> >>the same emphasis placed on the skills involved in facilitating 
> >>physiological birth and preventing those emergencies from occuring in 
> the 
> >>first place.  Risk management strategies are also back-to-front and 
> result 
> >>concentrate on the symptoms ignoring the cause. Anyhow... I could rant 
> on 
> >>forever about risk management and education. So I will shut up for 
> now.
> >>
> >>Rachel x
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: "Tania Smallwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
> >>>To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
> >>>Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Advertiser today...
> >>>Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 10:03:02 +1030
> >>>
> >>>Agree with all of that Rachel, and sorry if it seemed I was having a 
> go -
> >>>not intended at all.  What I feel is sad is that what you are talking 
> 
> >>>about
> >>>is not widely acknowledged, not by the midwives working in the 
> hospital
> >>>system that I know anyway.  They seem to hide behind this notion of 
> >>>needing
> >>>to be upskilled rather than acknowledging that for many of them, the 
> >>>system
> >>>they work in has resulted in them becoming deskilled and desensitized 
> to 
> >>>the
> >>>realities of birth.  I like the idea of rewiring!  I think I'd need a 
> 
> >>>total
> >>>motherboard overhaul to work just one shift in a labour and delivery 
> >>>suite.
> >>>Well done for being able to deliver care to the women who really need 
> it 
> >>>in
> >>>the system, hats off to you!
> >>>
> >>>Tania
> >>>xxx
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wump fish
> >>>Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2005 9:38 AM
> >>>To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
> >>>Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Advertiser today...
> >>>
> >>>I think any midwife who has spent their career in a hospital setting 
> >>>would
> >>>need 're-wiring' to attend homebirths. Hospital birth is so different 
> to
> >>>homebirth, and the danger is that midwives bring the hospital and 
> it's
> >>>guidelines to the home. I don't think it is a case of 'upskilling', 
> just 
> >>>a
> >>>totally different way of working and hospital midwives have been 
> >>>oppressed
> >>>and socialised into a particular way of practising. They often lack
> >>>confidence in their own midwifery skills and women's ability to 
> birth.
> >>>
> >>>Rachel - trapped in a hospital with pinging machines and missing 
> >>>homebirth
> >>>and midwifery.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >From: "Tania Smallwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> >Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
> >>> >To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
> >>> >Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Advertiser today...
> >>> >Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:06:12 +0930
> >>> >
> >>> >Love that term, Macdonaldisation!  I also get concerned when I hear 
> of
> >>> >midwives needing to be "upskilled" to attend 'normal' births, or to 
> 
> >>>give
> >>> >women care in water, etc.  I think as a midwife we should all be 
> able 
> >>>to
> >>> >handle the 'normal'.  I personally would need upskilling to work in 
> a
> >>> >tertiary institution with all those machines that go 'ping'!
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >Tania
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >-----Original Message-----
> >>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda
> >>> >Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2005 1:57 PM
> >>> >To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
> >>> >Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] The Advertiser today...
> >>> >
> >>> >a big part of it is the multi skilling crap which is just a way of
> >>> >getting constant work out an individual which i think is why so 
> many
> >>> >places are against direct mid entry midwives, they cant be used 
> like
> >>> >slaves to work everywhere anywhere anytime. it is an evolving 
> problem
> >>> >and much to do with globalisation and utilising the human resources 
> to
> >>> >the best benefit of corporation which hospitals are fast becoming. 
> The
> >>> >macdonaldisation of society!!! It really worries me....
> >>> >Belinda
> >>> >
> >>> >Tania Smallwood wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Not just a question for Barb, but anyone who knows about it, I'm
> >>> > > curious to know about the Midwife/nurse practitioner that you 
> refer 
> >>> > > to
> >>> > > in Qld. What exactly do they do? How is this different to 
> working
> >>> > > within the scope of a registered midwife? I'm aware that the 
> college
> >>> > > is not supportive of the notion of midwives becoming NP's, but 
> I'm
> >>> > > actually interested in what role they play in maternity care 
> over 
> >>>and
> >>> > > above the general run of the mill midwife?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Cheers,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Tania
> >>> > >
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