I mean soul (NOT FOOT!!!) amazing what screaming children will do to your
brain!!!!!!
amanda
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From: "Synnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re: hospital based midwife
It seems that there are those who feel a midwife working in a hospital
setting has "sold her/his sole to the devil" for doing so. But they are
the ones on the "front line" so to speak who fight every day for the
rights of birthing women, without them it would be worse. Yes there are
lots of problems in every hospital in regards to care of women, but the
fact is women do birth in hospitals and we need our best, most passionate
midwives there standing beside them or all is lost and it will all become
obstectrics care under doctors sole control with "ob nurses". If no one
has the passion to work in the hospitals who's left??????? We are never
going to get anywhere if its so easy for external forces to cause us to
turn on each other so easily "United we stand, divided we fall"???????????
Yes there are going to be differences of opinion which we are all entitled
to express, thats what I love about the country we live in. But we must
have one goal and that is to get and give the absolute best care for women
and their families no mater whether they turn up at a Birthing Centre,
Hospital, in their own home or where ever. We must fight to be the worlds
BEST place to have a child and make every pregnant women wish they could
birth here no matter where she goes in Australia.
This is the first time I have ever written anything on here so as you can
tell this has sparked an interest in me. And I hope it makes sence!
Amanda
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From: "wump fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 2:25 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] re: hospital based midwife
It is sad to hear yet another hospital midwife feeling under attack. It
can be argued that hospital midwives have an even greater role to play in
changing the maternity service and catering for women's needs. I turned
down the chance of working as an independent in the UK because I believed
that the women in hospital needed me more. They were birthing in a
strange environment amongst strangers, many in vulnerable social
situations. The statistics demonstrated the poor chances these women had
of avoiding an instrumental birth or c-section.
It is because most women give birth in hospitals, and because the
statistics for physiological birth are shocking - that hospital midwives
are so important. It is time we asked ourselves how we can improve these
outcomes for women and increase satisfaction rates. Many of us are, and
as I have said, I have come across far more motivated midwives in the
Australian hospital system than the UK. Let's not kid ourselves that
there is not a lot to fight for if we do not want to end up as obstetric
nurses. We are prevented in many ways from making our own clinical
judgements by guidelines, policies etc. We are prevented from developing
and maintaining midwifery skills such as waterbirth, suturing, full
spectrum care - in some hospitals even catching the baby.
It is only by acknowledging our position and refusing to accept that over
30% of women (fit and healthly by global comparison) are unable to give
birth without an operation. By looking at our own contribution to
individual care and to the midwifery profession. By standing together as
midwives regardless of where we practise that we can start to change
things for ourselves and the women we care for.
We need to stop taking discussion and debate personally and take a leaf
out of the drs book. Discuss, question, debate.... and learn. I am
pleased that this debate has drawn some lurkers out to provide us with
their valuable perspective we would otherwise have been ignorant of.
Rachel - another hospital midwife
From: "mariet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [ozmidwifery] re: hospital based midwife
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:30:49 +1100
I wanted to respond to this because it touches something I've felt for a
while. I've been a lurker on this list for ages but not a contributor
because, despite many years as a midwife (and I use the term advisedly, I
don't consider myself an obstetric nurse) I've had the impression from
the language used on this forum that the work I do and even the women I
look after is somehow not as valuable or important as community based
midwifery or birth centre care. I don't for a moment think that this is
the stated position of most of the contributors to this list. But to a
hospital based midwife it certainly can come across that way. I've never
been accused of being a shrinking violet but I haven't cared to expose
myself here, to dismissive comments about the place I choose to work or
the people I work with. Not all hospital midwives do their 8 or 10 hour
shift and ignore it for the rest of the day.
People are people. I have had atrocious handovers of care from the
midwife on the shift before me. I have also had atrocious handovers of
care, or refusal to share antenatal findings, from homebirth midwives
bringing women into hospital.
Women who come to the place where I work come from a wide cross section
of the community. Many come from countries where English is not the first
language. Some are highly educated, some are illiterate. There are early
attenders and women having their fourth child in succession without
booking in or having any antenatal care. Not to put too fine a point on
it, not all families are committed to providing the best start for their
babies. As midwives we give care to all these women, the best we can.
I joined this list in the hope of learning more and gaining support for
some of the difficult times and knotty questions that arise. I've learned
heaps and am so glad I joined; getting different viewpoints from the ones
I encounter every day has been so valuable and opened my mind to many new
things.
But I can't say I've been confident that I would receive support, I
came to the conclusion long ago that my place of work would overshadow
what I had to say and I do not feel inclined to apologise for the fact
that not only do I work in a hospital Delivery Suite, I even feel
satisfactin and joy in much of what I do.
Another hospital midwife
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