A huge number of women demand IOL from 37/40 onwards, like you Janet,(btw your views make perfect sense to me) I despair of how how to get the message across that the 'process' of birth will happen when all the participants are ready ie the baby, the mothers mind & her body. Sometimes in clinic I see women exert enormous pressure on the OB to IOL when he's not fussed about it & would happily "await events".

Perhaps the issue is that the animals won't sue the vet if something happens to their offspring because they were post-dates & no one intervened ! Whereas the women or their partners/families/GPs will. Litigation has a lot to answer for, CYA (cover your arse) medicine alive & well !

With kind regards
Brenda Manning
www.themidwife.com.au

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo Bourne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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A friend of mine is a vet and we had a very similar discussion not that long ago about dogs and the iniation of labour and a few other things. I remember laughing at her and saying so if vets know all this about dogs why don't Drs know it about humans, we can't be that different!

At 4:37 PM +1030 27/12/05, Julie Garratt wrote:
So, I was chatting with a family friend who breeds show horses.
Talking about postdates, etc. He laughed at me. Apparently, any horse
breeder worth his salt knows that 1) the foal initiates birth, 2) any
breeder who induces labor is a fool, 3) foals that come from induced
labors are inferior (have long term health difficulties, etc), 4)
induced labors are hard on both foal and mare, and 5) some foals just
take longer, and  gestational dates are just a guess.

If this is "common knowledge" amongst horse breeders,
fercryingoutloud, why isn't it for human breeders????



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