i also have no disrespect for anyone wanting to do midwifery either way. However i firmly belive that by doing the one year reg nurse course it assists in topping up for want of a better word the mid qualification not to mention that nursing degree goes into more detail some aspects that mid does not. although i am doing the one year degree for nursing i do not envisage ever having to use that degree so i look at it the other way in that iam hanging my nursing degree on a midwifery degree. not the other way around. there are many great de midwives that the university have graduated and mid has and is comming into its own as a stand alone profession as it should rightly so do however if you want to build upon your knowledge and do mental health which in my opinion is a assistance toward midwifery you cannot do this unless you have the magical rn degree as well. in all as midwives we need to be open minded in acceptance of what other people choose to continue their educaton with, i consider myself to be a midwife first then a nurse , when i get my degree.

cheers  sharon
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Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:58 PM
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With you all the way on this one Jennifairy...

If midwifery is EVER going to come out of the shadow of nursing, and stand
up and be counted as a profession in it's own right, we need to stop the one year cross over from nursing to midwifery altogether. No disrespect to all
my wonderful nurse/midwife friends and colleagues - I am one too!  I just
see that we need to move away from making midwifery a tack on thing from
nursing, as it has always been seen (that extra 'certificate' for you to
hang your hat on...) and welcome nurses, Drs, dentists, florists, vets,
chiropractors, and anyone else who wants to be a part of this sterling
profession, with the same open arms.  That way, we can be Midwives, and
choose to become nurses later if that turns us on too, but do the extra time there to, to give that profession the respect it so rightfully deserves, as
a completely separate profession in it's own right too...

Just my thoughts...

Tania
RM in private practice

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifairy
Sent: Thursday, 13 April 2006 6:03 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] de midwife course in wa

sharon wrote:

thats right i have done three year mid and now doing one yar nursing
over 2 years while working as a reg midwife so i have a double degree.
i belive that it should be 4 years and finish with a double degree.
regards sharon

Yeah, personal preference again.
I did the 3 year BMid in SA, & if Id *had* to do the extra year to add
nursing I prolly would have looked elsewhere (or written even more
letters to have it changed). The problem with a 'double degree' is that
it serves to maintain the fallacy that midwifery is not a distinct
profession, that nursing has to be in there somewhere. If we are going
to have double degrees with midwifery involved then I would prefer the
'other' degree was political science, or business studies, or something
that teaches one how to set up sustainable community structures.
Something that moves midwifery out of the mindset of a sub-species of
nursing, anyway.
Just my thorts
cheers
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Jennifairy Gillett RM

Midwife in Private Practice

Women's Health Teaching Associate

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