Had an interesting discussion along these lines at work today with almost all midwives from the unit and the CMC (who copped my retort when she declared babies are DEFICIENT in Vit K!!). They just didn't seem to get my point about informed consent meaning that women are made aware of the alternatives to what everyone referred to as the "normal" things that we get consent for (Synt, Hep B , Vit K), or even that those things are far from "Normal" and that written info about these things should also include the "risks" in declining or accepting! I was arguing against the policies that stated women need to be 'counselled' (ie 'bullied') by the paed registrar if they decline Vit K.

A comment was rightfully made about labour not being the best time to gain informed consent , and that should be done antenatally and signed then, "ABSOLUTELY" I replied to she who loves administering the narcotics... she who was also rendered speechless when I suggested this should apply to Pethidine administration, or ARM or scalp electrodes or routine VE.........and so on.

I love this list, at least I know I am not alone, I do have some kindred spirits where I work but we are rarely given the opportunity to speak out loudly. I'm a bit crook today, sore throat etc and as a result was not sitting quietly, I was a bit cranky and let my passion flow regardless of that look on their faces.. you know the one, where they are thinking......"She's a frootloop".(especially when I mentioned lotus placenta!!)

I don't care what they think, if it benefits the women and babies, and challenges the other midwives comfort zones then it should be said.

Oh well off to bed now so its not my family that cop my crankiness tomorrow!!

Cheers,
Diane



----- Original Message ----- From: "Justine Caines" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "OzMid List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Hep B, vit K


Dear Mary and Amanda

Exactly Mary!

Amanda have you read Sara Wickham's work on Vit K?

What is the consent process for Hep B, Are parents aware of the specific
populations of risk?

I must say the Hep B at birth really shocks me.  What are the risk factors
for babies who are not in contact with those in high risk groups such as
those already infected or sex workers and intravenous drug users?

It seems like a capture theory to me and I worry about the level of informed
consent.

JC


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