Penny, Does it have to be supplements. Could it be a good wholesome diet including good sources of Vit K? cheers Judy
--- penny burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One thing that I wonder about: > Routine supplementation with any vitamin seems to be a bad > idea for pregnant women as well as for babies. Do we know the > effects of supplementation with vitamin K on pregnant women? > What intricate balances might this be upsetting? It seems like > this could be another, if more natural form of blanket > treatment. > > If we truly believe that mother nature has designed things > well and the newborn low levels are there for a reason, then > do we want to boost the levels available in mum's milk? > > More to ponder, > Penny > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sue Cookson > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:11 PM > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: > > > Hi, > With the new Konakion MM it's the other way around. It has > been designed by increasing it's absorbability in fat to be > more affective if given orally. It has NOT been proven to be > as effective as the old Konakion in being absorbed by the IM > route. They are waiting to see if the surveillance of the new > Konakion through Australia, Switzerland and a few other > countries is as effective IM as it is oral. The oral route has > been found to give a higher vit K cover than the IM route over > a few weeks. > > THere is so much misinformation about vit K. It is available > to the baby through breastmilk and maternal supplementation > does increase neonatal serum K levels. What more do we want?? > > And by the way, all formla fed babies should be excluded > from any study due to the addition of vit K to formulas. ie > babies planned to be formula fed do not need vit k!! > > Sue > student midwife > birth practitioner > vit K has been my research assignment for the past three > years > > If a solution is designed to be given IM is it absorbed > effectively if given via the GI tract ? > No mention of this in the literature accompanying the > Konakion. > Most IM meds are NOT designed to be administered or guaranteed > by the pharmaceutical company to be effective if given orally. > It may be neutralised by gastric secretions, I am unaware of > any research re this. > Anyone else know of any ? > > If you are going to introduce a foreign substance into the GI > tract of a baby you'd want to have a good reason & be sure > that it was being absorbed wouldn't you ? > > With kind regards > Brenda Manning > www.themidwife.com.au > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "diane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 6:48 PM > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: > > > Apart from the fact it tastes like Sh** (very bitter). Been > reading about > Vit K all day today . Seems like a pretty good option as far > as the > statitistics go. > http://www.nhmrc.gov.au/publications/_files/ch39.pdf > > they recommend further research into the effectiveness of > supplimenting > brestfeeding mothers to increase the vit K in breastmilk as an > effective > suppliment. > > Di > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kelly @ BellyBelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 5:30 PM > Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: > > > Just a side question if that's okay - what are your > opinions on oral > vitamin > K versus injection? > > Best Regards, > > Kelly Zantey > Creator, BellyBelly.com.au > Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood > BellyBelly Birth Support - > http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Andrea Quanchi > Sent: Friday, 26 May 2006 3:24 PM > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: > > The place I work we give it when we do the NST. It was a > midwife > decision not an evidence based one. Like giving it with the > vit K it > is easier to do it at a predictable time so that it doesn't > get > overlooked. The midwives wanted not to do it at birth as they > were > wanting to do as little as possible to interupt Mum and baby, > As we > need to have a signed consent form to give it and the mothers > have > often not filled this is prior to birth it was very > interupting to > get all this"Done" on the birth day and we find it not an > issue later > when everyone has had time to sit down read the literature and > discuss it. Of course then we do have a number of mums who > decline > to have it which is their right and is not an issue at all. > Andrea Q > On 25/05/2006, at 8:10 PM, Amanda W wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have just started working at a new health facility that > tends to > give hep B injections on day 2 or 3. I have come from a > facility > that gives hep B at birth when vitamin k is given. Can anyone > shed > some light as to why the might do it this way. Any articles. > They > seem to not know why they do it. I just want to change > practice so > that can be done at the same time as the vitamin k. > > Thanks. > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or > unsubscribe. > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or > unsubscribe. > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or > unsubscribe. > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or > unsubscribe. > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or > unsubscribe. > > __________ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. 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