Hi all,

I've looked into the problems that seem to be happening on
the list, in particularly, that not all emails are being received
by everyone.

There are two issues that could be causing this problem, the
first one is spam filters as already mentioned by Andrea.
Unfortunately, there is no perfect technology available to
make sure only real spam is filtered and all the email you
want or expect to receive actually arrive in your inbox.

This spam issue also affects some emails that are bouncing.
As I don't always have time to go through all my spam mail
to make sure I catch all bounces from the list.  Although I will
endeavour to be as thorough as I can, I do received over 100
spam emails a day (that's my problem though :-) ).

I am currently going through my spam mail to fish out any
bounces that aren't spam and will respond to anyone whose
mail has wrongly ended up in my spam inbox.

Some of the ways you can help to make sure all emails are
received:

* Have a think about the words you use in your email, spam filters
  are set up to catch key words. Some of these you may need to
  use due to the nature of your work but may also have a not "spam
  typical" description.

* Only send emails to the list only and not copy in other people

* Try not to use the "special words" in emails, like s*bscribe,
  uns*bscribe, j*in, c*ncel and h*lp (particularly in the subject heading).

* Try to remember that the list doesn't like attachments.

* When replying to messages try to only keep as much of the
  original message as is needed to make sense of your reply.  Emails
  bounce when they are too long.

* For those who view this list via the archives, unfortunately, you
  can only post emails to the list is you are a member.  There is
  no reason why you can't join to send an email and then take
  yourself off the list after your email has been sent.

I hope this is useful to you all.  Please don't hesitate to contact me
should you have any questions.

Regards
Kim




At 03:05 25/06/2006, you wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Can I first stress that this list is not moderated - no-one checks emails before they appear and no messages are "filtered" out. This is one of the few email lists that are free and open in this way. Everyone is welcome here!

The list sometimes has problems, and we will investigate. Sometimes I get messages that for some reason are redirected to my spam filter where I pick them up - you could try checking there for missed emails. If the sender copies messages to other email addresses at the same time, this seems to cause the problem for me. For example, an email sent simultaneously to a string of private email address and/or several lists including this one, may get bounced as spam by your ISP.

Try sending messages just to this list and don't copy to anyone else at the same time.

I'll ask our list manager Kim for more suggestions.

Regards

Andrea



At 09:41 AM 24/06/2006, you wrote:
The emails that I am aware of not getting through have often been involving the same group of people, and/or regarding birth trauma, the ethics of choice, and then there is also mine and Janet's recent emails on birthplans (I've had two emails not appear yesterday, one was a follow up to David's commentary on the ethics of choice, and one was a response to Kelly's further query about Birthplans).

Are other people having the same difficulty, or are specific emails being singled out and removed? This is highly frustrating and needs to be remedied for the list to function fairly and effectively. It's happening a lot right now but it's occurred multiple times historically too.

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I often get the feeling that not all posts make it through, I see replies to messages that I never received etc.
At 11:38 PM +1000 23/6/06, Great Birth" & "Men at Birth wrote:
G'day,

I'm aware that a few people have sent responses to my post of 20 June entitled "Consumer demand for inductions and caesareans" but they never appeared on the list (I got sent them personally when they didn't appear) Has the list been malfunctioning in the last few days?

Cheers

David

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