Sarah's article's are so well referenced.  One of the reference's included is:

25) Fernando R, Bonello E et al. Placental and maternal plasma concentrations 
of fentanyl and bupivicaine after ambulatory combined spinal epidural (CSE) 
analgesia during labour. Int J Obstet Anaesth 1995;4:178-179
>From here: http://onyx-ii.com/birthsong/page.cfm?epidural


---- Kelly Zantey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Thanks Janet - a few of those links are not working.
> 
>  
> 
> The main thing she wants is actual medical study/evidence articles - e.g.
> the Sarah Buckley article she says is not adequate as the comment about the
> drug going into the bloodstream is not referenced back to anything. she has
> been trying to find such evidence everywhere but it has turned up fruitful.
> So not just the risks being quoted, but actual evidence.
> 
>  
> 
> Oh well, if it does it for them then that's what we have to do :-)
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:49 PM
> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Epidurals - entering the bloodstream
> 
>  
> 
> Here are some useful sources for the risks of epidurals. Funny how women are
> told to avoid alcohol and soft cheeses in pregnancy but encouraged to imbibe
> powerful and dangerous drugs in labour.
> 
>  
> 
> Drugs in labour twenty years hence. 
> 
>  <http://www.midwiferytoday.com/artic...ugsinlabour.asp>
> http://www.midwiferytoday.com/artic...ugsinlabour.asp 
> 
> epidural information 
> 
>  <http://gentlebirth.org/Midwife/epirisks.html>
> http://gentlebirth.org/Midwife/epirisks.html 
> 
> A little excerpt 
> 
> 
> Quote: 
> 
> 
> Generally, it is true to say the epidurals are a safe and effective method
> of relieving pain in labour - but safe does not mean risk free - the risks
> are there - it is wrong to say there are "none" (re the hospital employed
> childbirth educator) See Thorp, J.A. & Breedlove, G (1996) Epidural
> Analgesia in Labour: An evaluation of Risks and Benefits 23(2) 63-83. for a
> good review of the literature. 
> . hypotension 12 - 23% 
> . maternal fever - (then unnecessary antibiotic therapy - then the yeast
> infection - then.....) one study cited an increase of 0.07 Celsius rise per
> hour exposure to epidural anesthesia. another reported 5% of fetuses reached
> cores temp in excess of 4Celsius, another found a statistically significant
> increase in maternal temps > 38C associated with EA. 
> . inadvertent spinal ( and headache to follow - which a blood patch does not
> always cure - the incidence depends on skill of operator.... July - new
> residents - expect a huge increase in spinals in the teaching hospitals.....
> ) 
> . pruritus, nausea and vomiting. (no numbers here - but more likely with
> spinals) 
> . backache - significant more women c/o backache following EA (RR 1. 
> . fluid overload- ?pulmonary edema??? 
> . infection from epidural site 
> . resp arrest 
> . anaphylaxis 
> . nerve damage 
> Henci Goer on epidurals 
>  <http://parenting.ivillage.com/pregn...a=adid=16053332>
> http://parenting.ivillage.com/pregn...a=adid=16053332 
> 
> Epidurals: can they impact breastfeeding? 
>  <http://parenting.ivillage.com/pregn...0,,h1nz,00.html>
> http://parenting.ivillage.com/pregn...0,,h1nz,00.html 
> 
> Epidurals: real risk for mother and baby - Sarah Buckley 
>  <http://www.acegraphics.com.au/articles/sarah02.html>
> http://www.acegraphics.com.au/articles/sarah02.html 
> 
> The Epidural Express: 
> Real Reasons Not to Jump On Board 
> by Nancy Griffin, M.A., AAHCC 
>  <http://birthrites.edsite.com.au/Epidural.html>
> http://birthrites.edsite.com.au/Epidural.html 
> 
> Medical Risks of Epidural Anesthesia During Childbirth 
>  <http://www.healing-arts.org/mehl-madrona/mmepidural.htm>
> http://www.healing-arts.org/mehl-madrona/mmepidural.htm
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: Kelly <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Zantey 
> 
> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:42 PM
> 
> Subject: [ozmidwifery] Epidurals - entering the bloodstream
> 
>  
> 
> Hello,
> 
>  
> 
> Can anyone point me to a medical source or evidence which proves that
> epidural anaesthesia enters the bloodstream? Someone in my forums has said
> she has tried to find medical sources but can't find them anywhere.
> 
>  
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Kelly Zantey
> 
>  
> 

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