Hello Sue,
I hope that your bathrooms also have a ventilation unit and scavenger
units for the N2O2 - this is dangerous stuff to use in unventilated
areas - see this for more info:
http://www.birthinternational.com/articles/andrea27.html
More to the point - while I know that it is common in the UK for
almost every woman (in the bath or even giving birth at home) to use
nitrous oxide, I always question its use, especially when water and
baths are freely available as a safer alternative. The provision of
this gas sends a powerful message that not even warm water will ease
the pain and that "a little something" may/will also be
needed. When will we (midwives, supporters) stop sending these
messages that encourage dependence on drugs for labouring women?
Regards
Andrea
At 11:17 PM 26/12/2006, you wrote:
Just a fairly good size ordinary bath Mary, but quite deep, not what
we would have chosen had we midwives been allowed to have any input
into the upgrades. The new renovations are good on the whole - all
our birth rooms now have a good size en-suite shower and toilet, and
the bathroom (when we can use it) has piped N2O2. The ward bathrooms
are new also and a great improvement on the old ones!
Happy New year to all
Sue
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From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Mary Murphy
To: <mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 6:27 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Sue, what sort of bath is it? A proper one with good depth and
width or a larger ordinary bath? MM
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Sent: Saturday, 23 December 2006 11:56 PM
To: <mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Hi Amy
Yes, that's the place.
The policy is written, now apparently awaiting executive approval,
then no doubt they'll find another reason to prevent us using the
bath. Watch this space!! I'm tempted to wrap the door up in red
tape as that is what seems to be happening. sigh
Sue
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From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>adamnamy
To: <mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:06 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Sue,
Can I ask, do you work at Swans? I saw in the local paper that they
have upgraded the facilities and have installed and new bath. It
would be a bit mean (not to mention misleading) to market it and
then tell women they can't use it.
Amy
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From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Cudlipp
Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 9:55 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Mary, you may also be interested to know that our brand new bath
(where I work) is yet to be used because we -apparently - have to
have a policy in place before women are allowed to use it for
labour! Even though no other hospital seems to have seen this as a
necessary requirement.
Births in this pristine piece of porcelain are verbotten, but we
will utilise the KEMH policy for 'unplanned' waterbirths. However we
are still wondering when the powers that be will actually risk
letting our labouring women get into the bath. It's been sitting
there unused for some months now!!
Merry Christmas to you too, and to all on the list
Sue
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Mary Murphy
To: <mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:33 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Thank you all for your swift replies. I am supporting midwife who,
as a midwife in homebirth, did lots of water births and was recently
present at a water birth in a hospital where SHE supported the
midwife who supported a woman's wishes for a water birth. As we
have only 'accidental' water birth policies in WA hospitals, these
midwives are being 'hauled over the coals' for not making the woman
get out of the water to birth. Lots of intimidation going
on. This will all help. Thanks and Merry Christmas, Mary M
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