Problem is that # tags are not navigable by search engines :( -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel Madero Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 10:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Example site that renders HTML where Silverlight isn't possible?
Oooo thanks. That makes sense. Now I get it. :) On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:42 AM, John OBrien <[email protected]> wrote: > We can change the URL in the browser for # tags without the page reloading > as they are designed to navigate to titles on the same page, so it doesn't > cause the page to reload. > As soon as you change the query string it make the page reload. Essentially > we have to work with what the browsers support. > I imagine it would be a security issue if you could change the user URL > without actually reloading the page. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel Madero > Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 8:11 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Example site that renders HTML where Silverlight isn't > possible? > > What I don't understand is why can't we use Book?page=1 instead of > Book#page=1 for Silverlight with deep linking and bookmarking instead > of teh less SE friendly approach (Book#page=1) > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Jonas Follesø <[email protected]> wrote: >> I would recommend the following setup: >> >> Book?page=1 for Search Engine Indexing & Silverlight >> Book#page=1 for Silverlight with deep linking and bookmarking >> >> When the user hits the first URL (the one with HTML content) you render > the >> full page in HTML, and then use JavaScript to instantiate the Silverlight >> control if the browser has the plugin installed. This means that if the > user >> hits the link from Google, and have Silverlight, they get the full >> experience. If not - they get HTML, and Search enginges can index it. >> >> For the second URL (the #) you only render the Silverlight component, and >> dynamically load the correct content. >> >> To enable indexing of all content, you create a Sitemap file dynamically >> that links to all your Book?page=1 ... n. >> >> Your biggest problem with Silverlight and SEO is Page Rank, which is >> different from beeing able to index the content. >> >> Your user enters the page, opens a book and starts flipping pages. He > finds >> something he want to blog about or share, so he copies the url: > Book#page=4. >> He writes a blog post, linking to that URL. The problem is that when > Google >> hits your blog, and finds the link to the Silverlight page, the crawler > will >> ignore any #-link, meaning that a link to Book#page=4 only adds to the > Page >> Ranke of Book. >> >> Do you follow? So the problem is that people using Silverlight will start >> linking to Book#page=4, while non Silverlight users will link to >> Book?page=4, which will generate the correct Page Rank. >> >> I think the only way to get around this (unless Google changes their >> crawler) - is to have a "Share this page" button, which will generate a >> Book?page=4 link and encoure users to share that URL on blogs/facebook > etc. >> instead of sharing the Book#page=4 link which is what they can copy from > the >> adress bar. >> >> Planning to do a blog post about this. :) >> >> - Jonas >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 6:38 AM, John OBrien <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Anyway know of a website rendering multiple pages of content that > provides >>> a W3C compliant HTML version when the device can't use Silverlight? >>> >>> >>> >>> I have a client wanting to publish a book using a nice Silverlight >>> interface but still want the content available for SearchBots and those > not >>> wanting or unable to install the runtime. >>> >>> The concept we proposed is to publish two versions, use # tags for >>> navigation in Silverlight, detect if not supported and redirect to HTML >>> version following similar URL structure with links to view/install >>> Silverlight. >>> >>> >>> >>> The concept is simple enough, no matter what link people bookmark others >>> will get to the same content, the user must choose to use the richer >>> interface if they end up on the HTML version. 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