> On 6 jul. 2014, at 04:22, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the first spate of reactions: orsan, willi, Kevin
>
> First thing, yes Orsan, the hard politics of p2p transition in the existing
> context of capital-state-polity-policy-funding-culture.. that is the key
> issue we have to deal with, and I hope to add my own efforts to this, as soon
> as my homecoming fever is over ..
>
The work in the Synthetic Overview report
(http://p2p.coop/files/reports/collaborative-economy-2012.pdf) gives hints for
political space as well. So, although it was talking about economic entities,
the chapter one 'when vertical meets horizontal', can be adopted political
relations, in this sense.
The recent fb repost of a nice article by Ah Uhm gives very good insights as
well: Unity sans Convergence
http://guerrillatranslation.com/?s=Unity
I responded to it on Facebook very briefly as below:
"I think the conscious act of transforming network into meshwork (read p2p
distributed) by creating all possibilities for all the noses to link up each
other, as will as the core information related to that network (this I got form
michel's 2005 seminal article on p2p), as well as spaces, and channels that
would generate more interlocking nodes between many meshwork (acting kind of as
the fellowship of the ring) is emerging as the new ethics and politics in the
network movements. The direction taken is clearly towards the creation of a big
global meshwork. Unity and convergence makes a new sense in this new
paradigmatic multi layer matrix, from inner to individual, to inter personal
and community levels, recognising the simultaneous situations of autonomy and
oneness in any given time and space location. This matrix if grows healthy, is
allowing wider and bigger ripple effects in and between networks, so if there
is growing positive synergy, then comes more frequent qualitative jump-changes
(permanent rEvolutions) in one or several connected meshwork... Then no one can
guess where would the upward spiral leads (REvolution)"
The old politics, game of thrones, class wars, over the state hold, so on
-from the early days of the state formation till today, weather left, right,
revolutionary, liberal or conservative- were versions of mostly unethical,
energy and people consuming practices. They were directly outcome of vertical
dominant social structures, and always matched with vertical economic power
relations and they feed one another. When a conflicts happens, it has became
confusing and threatening for the other nodes of the network who are not
directly part of the conflict. When or in case there is not enough information
on the conflict issue, as well as about the who are the others on the network
the conflicts allowed a space for clash of tight kind-networks, formed by
strong ties of those involved in the conflict, and winner takes it all kind of
corrective wars scenario. This pattern can give us a starting point to asses
the level of p2pness, or meshworkness of a net. And one can guess, when even a
perfectly designed and happening meshwork enters into a relationship with a
vertical, like state, (as the Flok project) the situation generates unbalances
and on both side. then the strength of the ethics and politics of meshwork
movement should enters the picture from various ways and publicly. If this
happens it can beat the vertical, stupid and slow machinery of the vertical.
Yet it can work the other way around, a specially in the existing context of
crisis, corruption culture, role of authority/male in the society. That can
turn the ethics of meshworking around and shader it, Stalin like tactics can
spread and destroy the links in and between the nodes, via for instance
negative and suspicious posts by nodes feeding in mistrust so on. There are of
course infiltration, agencies, spies, so on. But good thing is they are working
for the stupid vertical, so once meshwork lets the fear and distrust occupies
the ties, meshwork will collapse. the more relationship with state, either
confront to transform it, or infiltrate to take it over, or attack it to throw
it down, or defend your self it's attacks puts meshwork in a more vulnerable
positions, challenge it's practices. The below is an analytical storming. This
challenge however already exist and stands before those of us everyday when we
effort to create real p2p distributed networks, as commons themselves. This is
what I understand from creating 'prefigurative' relationships. Working on the
germ form.
Based on these I will try to think further and assess the p2pness level of the
networks I involved. We might have a sort of index, where it would be easier to
assess ethical, political, economic, communicative, organisational practices
and relationships around us.
O.
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