On 11/10/06, Lemon Obrien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So, either SONY has been conned, or they're totally late...
Such as every big corporation, which primary goal is to survive. I read something once, called "How to escape the matrix", who's first chapters assimile our society as dominated by institutions, organisations, which when they get to a crititical size see their primary objective become absolute survival of the company. The problem is when they get dumped, they do what they can. The problem with internet is that, contrary to mass media, their over/under-the-table money can't guarantee prime time. I'm not sure what will happen, still the old lion is dying and biting.
Yes i have been programmed. I'm waking up every day. But it took me 90% of my life to wake up and get to true information sources, and to listen to good independant music. Why is that? Are we sheeps? That's unfair.
I agree completely. Plus, you may add google's buy has protected them too.
Well, arureus is said to provide MySpace's video hosting soon with bittorrent. Not a big deal? :)
Oh yeah? How big is your patent portfolio? A couple of patents, versus a huge society with 100s of patents? Don't take it personaly, but the patent-attack/defense/preventive use profits to the biggest again. One more border-side effect.
yes i do
go look at http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=102306A
Basically says a lot of primer internet pionneers (creators of netscape etc...) are starting an open mmorpg platform... For independant game/service programmers. Who said "attack second life?"
Yup
Was fun :)QTrax (http://www.qtrax.com/)...they're bullshit...I went to there website to find out about them; considering they're competitors.
So why are they bullshit you say...well, go to their website, click about and you'll read the following:"Qtrax and its components are developed by LTDnetwork Inc...Founded in October 2000, LTDnetwork inc,
a US based company has spent the last three years creating unique proprietary software
at its Australian subsidiary in Melbourne."the thing is...they're still not up...not even beta. I built Tamago in two years, and it's up, live,
and I'm making it better everyday...and getting new customers everyday.If you dig deeper, you really find out they're probably just loosing more and more money...
like retards; click press releases...find the first one"18 May 2004 QTRAX and BMI Announce Licensing Agreement"so they started licensing music over two years ago...see the 2004 date. I worked at Sony Music, the big
guys will license anything to you if you pay enough...so they've been paying for licenses for two years;
do not have a product, and a website with three buttons and some jpegs.
So, either SONY has been conned, or they're totally late...
not good.I also know this space, and know of another company, skyrider.com which does this already; except
they do it with existing networks, an existing market. think drm'd files."spiralfrog" this isn't p2p, but will mostlikely be a website, you download a song, and then every so
often you go back and watch Ads to keep your license up to date. This will last so long, until
people get tired of 1. the novity and 2. having to continually go back and watch Ads...which
I suppose won't last long. They may also figure out ways to basically rip it off...One easy way to
do this, is to use a winamp plugin to write the file disk as it is being played; or recording
it from the sound driver...faking it. This is why Tamago doesn't DRM, and some of the things I learned
while working at Sony Music.a couple of things about music. 1) people like to own music, and 2) people don't like DRMs
not so much with video, and images are mostly good for using as stockphoto. Documents and
software are also things people like to own.>>they have so much power that it kills all the p2p sector<<
Yes and No, the p2p sector shouldn't be about stealing; but also, that is how a lot of start-ups,
like youTube, get noticed. They don't have that much power...The real problem is most people
only do what others tell them to do. Look at the show "Entertainment Tonight" its nothing
but a commercial for the entertainment industry; but 90% of people actually think its news.
Other than that, Tamago is a direct threat to the status quo. With Tamago, there is no need
for recording, movie studios...they know this...and it's not power, but money. In fact, their
market is dying. Even with digital sales going through the roof, their market is shrinking; mostly
b/c the type of entertainment they are turning out is just boring and not worth the money. But,
the real reason the record companies, RIAA, sued the shit out of Napster/Kazaa/etc. is that they
have major investments in CD-Factories. I know Sony Music had at least two large factories;
employing about 3000 people. The thing is...its not the "Entertainment" the Entertainment is
trying to protect, its their sales channels.
Such as every big corporation, which primary goal is to survive. I read something once, called "How to escape the matrix", who's first chapters assimile our society as dominated by institutions, organisations, which when they get to a crititical size see their primary objective become absolute survival of the company. The problem is when they get dumped, they do what they can. The problem with internet is that, contrary to mass media, their over/under-the-table money can't guarantee prime time. I'm not sure what will happen, still the old lion is dying and biting.
Movie Studios indirectly own the theartes which show
the movies. You've been programmed, but didn't even know.
Yes i have been programmed. I'm waking up every day. But it took me 90% of my life to wake up and get to true information sources, and to listen to good independant music. Why is that? Are we sheeps? That's unfair.
This is why certain movies are
only shown in certain areas. Its just rich people protecting their investments. The way to
get around this, is to 1) either give them money (license content from them) or 2) give them a
piece of the pie. For example, several music companies had stock in youTube before it was sold.
That's why it wasn't sued out of existance.
I agree completely. Plus, you may add google's buy has protected them too.
>>azureus' deal<<
Don't know anything about it; but I would suspect it's not a big deal...
Well, arureus is said to provide MySpace's video hosting soon with bittorrent. Not a big deal? :)
Tamago is the only p2p
company with it's business model. We also have Patents on the business model and technology
...meaning we'll sue.
Oh yeah? How big is your patent portfolio? A couple of patents, versus a huge society with 100s of patents? Don't take it personaly, but the patent-attack/defense/preventive use profits to the biggest again. One more border-side effect.
Nothing is fair in love and war.>>internet in 15 yrs? Mine would be an ubiquitus social p2p network.<<
a ubiquitus social p2p network, well, i'm starting that now, adding it to Tamago. I have the basic
commerce engine down.the way i'd like to see the internet in 15 years, ummm...well, hardware would be free; given to you,
and using Tamago, or some other network, buy things, and turn your device into a personal digital store.
The commerce would subsidize the hardware, much like the mobile phone market in the beginning.
probably tv, radio, etc, would either be merging, or have merged by then. Microsoft would not be the
dominant OS anymore, I'm thinking this b/c with Tamago (don't you hate all these blatent plugs)
yes i do
you
can embed it into the OS then give the OS away for free; anyone using the OS would then make some money
distributing media. Companies, especially startups, would immediately use them b/c their office
equipment would be earning you cash.
I also think massively multi-player games, like World of Warcraft, will become huge. If I had
millions, I'd develop my own virtual world game...
go look at http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=102306A
Basically says a lot of primer internet pionneers (creators of netscape etc...) are starting an open mmorpg platform... For independant game/service programmers. Who said "attack second life?"
problem is, they're very labor intensive to
make and not a lot of developers can do that kind of programming...not many can do p2p.anyway...long email. nice questions.
Yup
Florent
_______________________________________________ p2p-hackers mailing list [email protected] http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers
