On 6 Jan 2007, at 17:07, Adam Fisk wrote:
Furthermore, I think you're overglorifying the IETF protocol stack. I mean, if it were truly as great as you say it is, why do all the most innovative products avoid it like the plague? Perhaps the problem lies closer to home than they'd like to admit.


I probably am overglorifying it. I think there's an impending backlash against all these clumsy, essentially proprietary protocols becoming standards, though. HTTP and HTML really started this whole ride. Their simplicity -- the ease of interoperation -- was really the key. To me, breaking interoperability is an all to frequent design mistake.


I would be interested in trying to take a P2P protocol through the IETF policy process.

I think it should be something like BT - quite simple in terms of implementation, but with a good usage history. Using the whole IETF stack isnt necessary to get approval, eg using http - a case could be made for not using http but it might lose out. Of course if the ietf protocol wasnt interoperable with BT (and the divergent BT-like protocols) it might not be successful. But having any P2P protocol ietf approved would be a
very good step. It wouldnt help anyone in the short term.

justin

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