On Wednesday, January 24, 2007 wrote:
> I wonder if any of the WSN work might be relevant. 

        It must be - thanks for the reference!

        Thank you -
        S.Osokine.
        24 Jan 2007.


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Hi Serguei,

Interesting reading.  It reminded me of a parallel I noticed a year or 
two ago between developments in p2p and wireless sensor networks 
(different from mesh networks).  I wonder if any of the WSN work might 
be relevant.  Here's an overview:

http://www.ee.iastate.edu/~kamal/Docs/kk04.pdf

CHEERS> SAM

Serguei Osokine wrote:
> Say, the nodes are in the square grid and the transmission distance
> is 2.9 - this way, every transmission reaches 5x5 node square. So 
> here is the covered area after the first request hop:
>
> . . . . .
> . . . . .
> . . x . .
> . . . . .
> . . . . .   ('x' is the requestor).
>
>       After the second hop (24 transmissions), the coverage area will
> look like this and include 'r' (the responder):
>
> , , , , , , , , ,
> , , , r , , , , ,
> , , . . . . . , ,
> , , . . . . . , ,
> , , . . x . . , ,
> , , . . . . . , ,
> , , . . . . . , ,
> , , , , , , , , ,
> , , , , , , , , ,
>
>       So the respoder sends the response that reaches 24 nodes around 
> it, but this response basically says: "this is sent in response to the
> request A with hop count of two. Rebroadcast it only if you are the
> node who has sent this request with this hop count". These would be
> only the nodes marked with dot '.' in the picture, so the first hop 
> of the response will be forwarded by 'dotted' nodes within the one-
> hop broadcast distance from 'r':
>
> , , , , , , , , ,
> , , , r , , , , ,
> , , o o o o . , ,
> , , o o o o . , ,
> , , . . x . . , ,
> , , . . . . . , ,
> , , . . . . . , ,
> , , , , , , , , ,
> , , , , , , , , ,
>
> - these eight nodes (marked as 'o') rebroadcast the response, and
> this time, it reaches the original requestor 'x'. 
>
>       This is the basic idea. In a multi-hop case the same thing
> happens, except that the response hop count gets decreased further
> and further as it gets rebroadcast, and the nodes from the previous
> request hop circles rebroadcast it one hop closer to the requestor.
>
>       

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