On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 15:01 -0800, Allen wrote:

> Frankly, IMHO, we are hitting a peak in world population sometime 
> in the not too distant future, much like the cycles of rabbits 
> and foxes. Too many rabbits, and the foxes bred until they have 
> over thinned the rabbit population and starve, reducing the foxes 
> such that the rabbits can over bred, only to have the cycle 
> repeat itself. I suspect that a steady state human population is 
> considerably less than the current world population. I just 
> wonder what the "foxes" will be.


Humans don't need outside predators; we prey on each other. 

Seriously, we *are* the foxes.  The "rabbits" in this scenario 
are the things we prey upon or deplete (species diversity,
meteorological stability, polar ice caps, aquifers, fossil 
fuels, etc.), which had for some millennia been in a nearly  
steady state before "innovation" started ramping up both 
population and the power each individual human has to consume 
resources.  When they are gone, we will either adapt in some 
presently unanticipated way, or go into decline. 

As resources get scarcer, I think we can expect fighting 
over them to become a lot more common, hence the "we prey 
upon each other" comment. 

ObOntopic: Recent figures from Microsoft indicate that one 
out of every ten pieces of signed code registered through 
Root CA's is malware.  And most of those are "Serious" or 
"Critical" security threats, ie, rootkits or similar. 

                                Bear


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