Hi, On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 03:59:49PM +0200, Andrew Beekhof wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Dejan Muhamedagic <deja...@fastmail.fm> > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 08:42:06AM -0400, Eliot Gable wrote: > >> http://clusterlabs.org/wiki/Documentation > >> > >> > >> First, read this (probably ten times or so, since it won???t make complete > >> sense and you will miss various details the first couple of times): > >> > >> http://clusterlabs.org/mediawiki/images/f/fb/Configuration_Explained.pdf > >> > >> Then, if you want to use the CLI, read this: > >> > >> http://clusterlabs.org/mediawiki/images/8/8d/Crm_cli.pdf > >> > >> Or check out any other links on that main documentation site. > >> > >> I strongly recommend you start out learning with the XML CIB > >> and then, if you want, move to the CLI. Everything makes much > >> more sense if you understand the XML stuff. > > > > I'll disagree here. The crm shell is there to let the vast > > majority of people start working with Pacemaker without having to > > read XML. And then also enable most of them never to think about > > XML. crm should be able to represent all cluster configurations > > without the XML scaffolding (and you won't miss much, it is > > horrible anyway). > > oi! :-) > its much better than it was in 0.6 > > > In short, what would one gain by reading XML > > instead of the stripped crm representation? > > > > Without question the crm shell is the best tool for changing the > configuration. > > I still find the stripped representation harder to read though - I > seem to have trouble finding and focusing on the bits i'm interested > in at the time. But I've been starring at the full form for over 5 > years now, so that may not be surprising :-)
So, which part do you miss? :) Seriously, perhaps formatting could be improved or something. I'm always listening. And, frankly, I don't like the crm representation that much either, but couldn't think of any better way at the time. Still, what it makes it great for me is that I don't have to stare like a sheep at XML, it always gives me headache. Thanks, Dejan _______________________________________________ Pacemaker mailing list Pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker